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Old 05-06-2003, 07:16 AM   #1
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God made the people ...

God made the mountains, God made the sky
God made the people ... God knows why

He fixed up the planet, as best as He could
Then in come the people, and gum it up good

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Ok, why, oh why, is it some people manage to "trash" my campsite with old bottle caps and cigarette butts?

It really gets my goat!

It doesn't matter whether I'm camping inner city, pristine oceanfront or mountain top, most campsites are littered with bits of trash.

I've said this before ... and I'm not picking on the smokers or drinkers.

But geeze, if they are going to smoke and drink ... then they least they can do it pick up their smoked butts and old bottle caps!

The first and the last thing my wife and I ... arriving or departing a campsite ... is do a quick walk around the site, picking up trash.

Sometimes we're pleasantly surprized by an ever-hard-working campground host who has already picked up the site before our arrival.

But usually, we're surprized at what we find.

Once, our site was littered with hundreds of colorful pieces of rubber. It took a while, but I finally figured out the colorful bits were shreads of old balloons.

Only thing I can figure out is the folks before us must have had a water balloon fight ... and just left the broken balloons on the ground, where the maintanance guys just mowed them over.

Often we find evidence of folks attempting to burn trash in the fire pit (Are these people so stupid they really think a can will burn???)

Once, we even found about a dozen broken beer bottles in and around the fire ring.

I know I've preached about this before. But with everyone gearing up for the summer camping season, I'm urging y'all to leave each campsite BETTER than you found it.

It only takes a second or two to clean it up (although sometimes you need gloves and a biohazard-suit to pick up what you find).

And, I'm also curious ... what's the worst condition you've ever found at a campsite? (Please keep your posts within the boundaries of good taste!)
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Old 05-06-2003, 07:31 AM   #2
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Hi All
I found one site that somone had dumped there Black Water Tank in.That in my opinion is pretty low.Scum bags is what I would call them.
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Old 05-06-2003, 07:35 AM   #3
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We go through exactly the same drill, Charles, when we move into a campsite. We're both smokers and tipple the occassional pint, but we'd never leave our trash for someone else to pick up.

Ches, that is really, really low. You found another site, eh?
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Old 05-06-2003, 07:38 AM   #4
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"Once, our site was littered with hundreds of colorful pieces of rubber. It took a while, but I finally figured out the colorful bits were shreads of old balloons."

You better hope they were balloons. Same thing happened to us.
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Old 05-06-2003, 08:53 AM   #5
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I can handle picking up the cigarette butts, the gum/candy wrappers, straws, bottles, cans etc but the dog pooh to me is the worst. Especially if you can smell it but not find it. Ewwwww. :sick

The most ignorant of all was the dirty diapers in the firepit. Can't even begin to imagine what kind of disgusting person would do that. Maybe a relation of the one that dumped the black holding tank at Ches site.
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Old 05-06-2003, 09:07 AM   #6
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>>dirty diapers in fire pit

Yuck, Nancy! Do you suppose the people figured when the diapers dried, they could burn them like artificial logs?
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Old 05-06-2003, 09:21 AM   #7
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>>Yuck, Nancy! Do you suppose the people figured when the diapers dried, they could burn them like artificial logs?

Double Yuck, Charles. Maybe that was their plan as that was all that was in the firepit! I wonder if they would burn in colours?
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Old 05-06-2003, 10:02 AM   #8
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The great mystery

Why are so many people such utter slobs? It never ceases to amaze me, as old as I am.

For almost 20 years my wife and I have camped at the same creekside spot (not a site, since there is no road into it) in a favorite National Forest. We have our own names for all the streams, meadows, trails, pools, etc. within five miles of the place. Sadly, with the departure of our pop-up we won't be able to camp there in the future. The Casita, high-lift or no, just wouldn't make the track into it. My point is this: for 20 years we used an huge old black cedar stump at that spot as the place to put our water carriers, wash hands, etc. This last time we went up there, someone had decided that it would be fun to destroy the old stump with an ax. Just for fun, you know. We were heartbroken. It was like losing an old friend.

I don't mean this to sound like I'm bragging, but in over 50 years of hanging out in wild places I have never knowingly left so much as a spent paper match on the ground. I'm kinda proud of that. Others here can say the same, I am sure. My wife and I are fanatics, I guess, but we scrape up butts, bottle caps and tabs, cartridge cases, batteries, fishing line, MacDonald's cups, WalMart bags, and other unmentionables. You name it and we've probably toted it out from someplace or other.

Doggy gifts? In the places we most often camp the pups go off into the woods and their offerings return to nature in the way it was originally intended that they should. If we're in a more populated area we always clean up after them. People who don't just ruin it for other dog lovers. On my last trip, just over, in a NF in VA a fellow went by my site with his dog, let him relieve himself on the path to the toilet shack and then walked on. I called after him and asked him if he wanted to borrow my shovel to clean up after his dog. He glared at me and didn't say anything, but did return in a few minutes with his own tool to do the job.

This is an amazingly, infinitely beautiful country we are blessed with. Slob campers, and other kinds of defilers, are still one of the great mysteries I can't solve or understand. Hmmm, how about the death penalty? That might help.
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Re: But geeze, if they are going to smoke and drink ... then they least they can do it pick up their smoked butts and old bottle caps!

Our butts go in the fire - our CANS go home. Beer bottles do not belong on a camping trip (although I prefer them).

My biggest complaint is the shells from sunflower seeds and pistachios, etc. GROSS!

We never find much (if any) garbage at the BC Provincial Camgrounds we have been to. Maybe Canadians don't litter as much as you US'ers? ;) But then again, the City of Toronto was an absolute pig-sty last week.

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Camper's Creed

The backpacker's creed is just as good for campers of any sort. If you carry it in, then carry it out.

I remember packing in a couple of miles one time and was sorely disappointed to find things like orange peels, and various other 'stuff.' Okay, so this isn't yukky; okay, so it's biodegradable; problem is, all this stuff hadn't ''biodegraded'' when we got there to camp. We cleaned it up and brought it out along with our stuff.

As far as cig butts go: I've known heavy smokers who never put a butt on the ground. Keep an old water bottle, soda can, beer can, etc, and fill half full with water. They make great 'instant out' ashtrays and can be dumped when you leave.
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Rick:My biggest complaint is the shells from sunflower seeds and pistachios, etc. GROSS!

Add peanut shells and DOG hair balls to that Rick. I'm almost to the point of bringing my own rake with me. Our son has a severe alergy to peanuts and just the dust from the shells causes wheezing.
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Old 05-06-2003, 08:46 PM   #12
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Robert;
Some people just have absolutly no consideration for others. Your story of the hacked up stump reminded me of the fellow I saw with a machete hacking away at a live oak tree a few years ago. I was in a suburban neighborhood and I hit my brakes and asked him what he thought he was doing, he told me it was none of my business what he did. I explained it sure as hell was my business it was in a lot I owned next to my house and I was calling the cops. This fellow ran home and got his dad from down the street, and even his dad didn't care he was just mad at me for yelling at his kid. The only thing that kept it all in check was my reddiness to call the cops on my cell phone and let them settle all of it.
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Post deleted - off topic.

I believe this thread is on inconsiderate camping etiquette. Letís not bring in ethnic slurs.
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This might've already been said, but

''Leave it cleaner than you found it'' was what we always said (and did) in Girl Scouts. And I still pretty much do it these days (it's not hard!)

Carrying a little rake is a good idea. Thanks for the suggestion, Charles!! (At least I think it was Charles who suggested it...)

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