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Old 04-14-2013, 01:58 PM   #99
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The Never Ending Story

When sticky's can be stored inside all of their life they usually survive to a ripe old age.

Owners that ignored that MFRV out in the pasture for 10 or so years deserve a window or hatch leak that leads to floor damage. On the other hand, a sticky treated the same way becomes a pile of mush.

My Hunter Compact II is 40 this year and had no water damage save a few stains near the refrigerator vents, and it still has the original pop-up fabric.

And what % of 1973 stickys are still in use ????




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In all fairness, take a look at some of the 30 year old FG trailers being renovated noting the original condition of the unit on the forum. I seen rotted floors and saw once a photo of the A/C unit sunk in on the roof on FG. I saw a youtube video on an 1989 Taylor Coach in remarkable condition that the guy traded in for a new one. The unit is made of molded fiberglass, not titanium.
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Old 04-14-2013, 02:04 PM   #100
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Steve,

I assume you have decided against a Scamp. It would have saved you a lot of bother had you just driven the 150 miles for a day outing to have all your questions answered and see the options available. I'm guessing you want things Scamp can not provide.

Enjoy whatever you find and be sure to remain active with us here, and show us what you get.

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Old 04-14-2013, 05:31 PM   #101
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I think some of the Bigfoots models are great. As far as cream always rises to the top.... THIT floats too Often folks are sucked in by bling when comparing trailers. It really is about "personal" functionality and needs.
I was always told it rolls down hill.

But from a scientific way, if it floats, it proves you have enough fiber.
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Old 04-14-2013, 06:10 PM   #102
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I gotta get my digital camera fixed...

There's a 32 foot 1952 "Angeles" trailer on my property- wood framed aluminum, all birch interior. We've slapped aluminum roofing compound on it once in the fifteen years its been there, and believe you me it didn't get any better care in its first forty-five years. It doesn't leak, nor does our 1956 Shasta also stored outside.

That whole "nothing will last except fiberglass" thing is a myth!

My advice to O.P. Steve is to do his homework re. the different brands of stick-built trailers...some are better built than others, and there are many that will serve his needs nicely.

If you're listening, Steve, my opinion is that the aluminum clad units may be the better choice if potential for delamination is a concern for you...on the other hand, if you live in big-hailstone country composite siding may be the better choice.

Unless of course you want to name your (aluminum) trailer "Dimples"!

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Old 04-14-2013, 07:25 PM   #103
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"That whole "nothing will last except fiberglass" thing is a myth!"
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I don't think that anyone is saying that at all. Airstream, Argosy and Silver Streak trailers, along with a lot of early"Canned Ham" trailers are proof of that.

It's the aluminum/fiberglass sheeting over 1x2 construction that is the true sticky.
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In the Toyota motorhome groups where both construction types are present in the same sizes and on the same chassis, there is no question whatsoever that the stick-built units are by far more prone to structural damage from water leaks than the molded fiberglass constructs.

In comparing similar aged trailers, sticky vs. MF, you will find the same ratios.

Again, look around, they were building lots of sticky travel trailers and slide-in campers built in the 70's & 80's yet, unlike molded fiberglass rigs from the same time period, few seem to have survived.

And of course, there are always exceptions.
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:33 PM   #104
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Escape with options= $29330.00 NEVER GOT A PRICE FROM SCAMP
SIX WEEKS AND STILL WAITING
I have never had that issue with Scamp. Try calling again perhaps.
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:37 PM   #105
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Stick built trailers that saw little travelling did last fairly good. I had one that in over 10 years only went on two short road trips. The first owner did one holiday with it and sold it, and the people that bought if from him had it sitting in an RV campground for 3 years before I bought it. The nubbies were still on the tires.

This trailer served me well, got tons of use as a cabin on our rec land, and actually was it great shape for its age when I sold it. Similar trailer of the same make and age were mostly in WAY worse shape. That type of construction does not handle the stresses of being towed all over the place as much. They seem to "loosen" up a bit under the effects of bumps and wind way more than a moulded fiberglass one would.

I really can't speak for the newer sandwich panel type trailers, and how long they will last. I really have no experience with them. It does seem like a much better way of building them.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:06 PM   #106
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We would rather buy fiberglass but we can buy a stick built with twice the features for half the cost. We do not want to but we are forced to go to the other side.
Actually, you are making a wise decision to satisfy your desires. That's all this is about. NO specific brand or construction method is inherently good nor inherently bad. That's what compromise is all about. When did that get to be such a dirty word? If you cannot compromise then you cannot get anything done. There are current event examples of that truth that will remain nameless here. There are valued members here who have traveled a path similar to yours. They are deciding what is best for them at the moment they have to make that decision. No shame in that.
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I am just trying to vent my frustration with businesses who could care less about their customers Must be nice to be able to turn away business in a bad economy
There is an old chestnut that says something like "Walk a mile in my shoes..." You know that cable TV show, "Undercover Boss"? I think they need to make a show called, "Undercover Customer." I used to disparage our Sales Department at work. You know what? I took an opportunity to observe what they have to put up with. I could not do that job. Some uninformed expectations need to be turned away, and they care deeply about being forced to do that.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:26 PM   #107
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Francesca has it right about weather concerns! Thinking winter HAD to be nearing the end---we uncovered the stickie last weekend. Guess what Omaha got last week?!? HAIL AND SNOW. Guess what we were greeted with yesterday?! "Dimples"----kinda fits---camper is named "19th Hole" and now it looks like a golf ball!

But you know what? I'm still happy---poop happens---and when you're nearing 61 it's a blessing to awaken every morning! Not sweating the little stuff----
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:28 PM   #108
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I really can't speak for the newer sandwich panel type trailers, and how long they will last. I really have no experience with them. It does seem like a much better way of building them.
My sister-in-law bought one of those. I toured her brand new trailer and was impressed that the particle board cupboard doors already appeared to be falling off the hinges. She got a great deal, since it had been sitting at the dealership for three years before selling.
She's since moved up to a tent trailer.
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But you know what? I'm still happy---poop happens---and when you're nearing 61 it's a blessing to awaken every morning! Not sweating the little stuff----
That's the attitude!!
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Badges of honor, that's what your trailer's new dimples are, Vickie! As long as the stones didn't get through to the inside, who cares?

Side note:
I'm the same age as that 1952 trailer I spoke about earlier and wish I looked as good as it does...

Francesca, aging faster than a "stickie"...
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:34 PM   #111
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I think this puppy has your name on it, Mike!

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We are still in a stick built home, but starting to be at the point financially where we might do something else. Ok, not this big and fancy, but something safe and reasonably nice looking. Maybe a smaller version of this:
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:19 PM   #112
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I see this way, once I went for a job interview and the interviewer said, "So, tell me what makes you the best candidate for this job?" I told him, "I have no idea if I am the best candidate since I do not know the other interviewers and what experience and other qualifications they have." I can tell a lot of insults to the stickies are being done by people that really don't know that side. I love everything RV and I can appreciate all units for their positives. I got all the books, magazines and visited all the websites. I know what value RV Consumer Group - We Rate RVs has - zero to me. Attacking the stickies with a vengeance comes across as rather "cult-like". OP was just stating what a lot of others run into. Not everyone can take off and drive to the manufacturer or do without certain options, etc. Not everyone buys the most expensive for the impression that it will make. The OP is reasonably frustrated and surely has a right to his opinion of customer service and price/value, a right to whatever options he needs/wants without being considered a snob or out to impress someone.

Note: Camplite says that when their units get hail-damaged that they just put a new aluminum panel over the damaged one. I haven't decided what I think of that yet.

Also, you can catch the youtube of that 1989 Taylor Coach. I have actually been in and saw several units from the 70's and 80's at the larger RV dealers and was very impressed by the condition. You see, in that time period, everything was made more solid and there was pride in workmanship. I have been wondering what the units being made right now will be like in 30 years and I'm guessing, it won't be the same as those made 30 years ago. So, that's my thoughts.
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