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Old 04-11-2013, 04:09 PM   #1
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Over the last 3 weeks I have exchanged over 75 E-Mails and over 10 phone calls in an attempt to buy a new trailer from Scamp or Casita . I admit defeat , I do not have the patience to deal with them any more . I was actually told to go to Escape because they have the time to waste making changes or modifications . My wife and I like the Escape 19 but with the options my wife desires the cost is over $30,000,00 (Base Price =$24,000.00) and out of our price range . We would rather buy fiberglass but we can buy a stick built with twice the features for half the cost. We do not want to but we are forced to go to the other side.
I am just trying to vent my frustration with businesses who could care less about their customers Must be nice to be able to turn away business in a bad economy

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Old 04-11-2013, 04:16 PM   #2
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Steve, hold your horses!!! With the Escape 21' coming on the market very soon I suspect you will start to see more used 19's hit the market. For the longest time the 17' was hard to find used ... that was until the 19' came along and *a lot* of people traded up -even a number of 17's that were only a year or so old got the trade up. Suspect the same will happen with the 19'.
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:24 PM   #3
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steve look at lil snoozy click on these links HOME and http://www.lilsnoozy.com/ base price around 17000
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:30 PM   #4
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Steve, hold your horses!!! With the Escape 21' coming on the market very soon I suspect you will start to see more used 19's hit the market. For the longest time the 17' was hard to find used ... that was until the 19' came along and *a lot* of people traded up -even a number of 17's that were only a year or so old got the trade up. Suspect the same will happen with the 19'.
Thank you Carol but after years of used trucks & cars and fixing our used Scamp , my wife and I have decided on buying new this time . Casita has an option for installing added 120 VAC receptacle so I ordered a trailer with 2 additional outlets at a cost of $158.00 only to discover that they get to choose where the additional optional outlets are placed not me ??? . I looked at a 2014 19 ft stick built trailer with 8.0 cu ft refrigerator ,oven , AC, stereo,
slide out, Queen size bed ,TV rear storage rack dual axle etc etc Price under $15000.00 delivered and with filled propane tanks . If it falls apart in 5 years am I really out that much money compared to a $30.000 Escape
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:40 PM   #5
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Wow Steve, that sucks. Personally, I will never buy a stick built trailer, they have too much cross sectional area, and since We like to drive long distances, the gas consumption would kill me.
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:08 PM   #6
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Thank you Carol but after years of used trucks & cars and fixing our used Scamp , my wife and I have decided on buying new this time . Casita has an option for installing added 120 VAC receptacle so I ordered a trailer with 2 additional outlets at a cost of $158.00 only to discover that they get to choose where the additional optional outlets are placed not me ??? . I looked at a 2014 19 ft stick built trailer with 8.0 cu ft refrigerator ,oven , AC, stereo,
slide out, Queen size bed ,TV rear storage rack dual axle etc etc Price under $15000.00 delivered and with filled propane tanks . If it falls apart in 5 years am I really out that much money compared to a $30.000 Escape

Steve, I say this all the time when giving tours of our 13' Scamp, "These little trailers aren't for everybody." It sounds like that's the case for you and your wife.
As far as Scamp goes, I had no problems dealing with them to get almost exactly what I wanted. Very few changes have been made and very few factory changes would I want differently. I do however see far more stick built trailers in our travels than fiberglass. I think mostly because everybody seems think bigger is better and more goodies are better, that's ok if that's what makes you happy. Those who embrace the small trailer think the opposite, smaller is better, and fewer goodies makes life easier.
I hope you find what pleases you and don't let the nay sayers bother you. We all have different views and different ideas on what we would like. Good luck in you adventure.
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:22 PM   #7
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...Price under $15000.00 delivered and with filled propane tanks . If it falls apart in 5 years am I really out that much money compared to a $30.000 Escape...
Well, you'd be out nearly $15,000. That's more than I would want to just lose. It is a real wizzer that some companys will not work with you to really give you what YOU want. There are those out there that will, obviously Escape, as you have discovered, and I can attest to Oliver's attention to the owner's every wish. Never having dealt with anyone else, I can't speak for the customer service from any other company. Unfortunately, this custom service does come at a price, sometimes more than one is willing or able to pay. I hate to have to admit to the fact that usually "you get what you pay for" or maybe it should be "you have to pay for what you get."
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:23 PM   #8
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I feel your frustration, it's like they haven't moved with the times. The placement of the 2 outlets decided by them is ridiculous. We are back in the days when you could buy your car any colour you wanted as long as it was black!
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Steve, I say this all the time when giving tours of our 13' Scamp, "These little trailers aren't for everybody." It sounds like that's the case for you and your wife.
As far as Scamp goes, I had no problems dealing with them to get almost exactly what I wanted. Very few changes have been made and very few factory changes would I want differently. I do however see far more stick built trailers in our travels than fiberglass. I think mostly because everybody seems think bigger is better and more goodies are better, that's ok if that's what makes you happy. Those who embrace the small trailer think the opposite, smaller is better, and fewer goodies makes life easier.
I hope you find what pleases you and don't let the nay sayers bother you. We all have different views and different ideas on what we would like. Good luck in you adventure.
Byron over 4 weeks ago I sent an E- Mail to Scamp asking for a price on a Scamp Deluxe. I waited a week NO answer so I called them and was told to resend the E-Mail which I did. Again another week passes NO quote Again I call and 3 days later I receive my quote only it's missing half the options I requested. Again I contact Scamp and they assure me they will correct the quote, 3 days later they E-Mail me a quote "The same Quote with the same options missing". Again I contact them and again I wait and again I get a quote with the same options missing. Now I call and E- Mail Kent Eveland and his son Micah . Micah answers my E- Mail and says he will resolve the problem . 10 days later NOTHING I gave up I think i was more than diligent . I like my Scamp 16 but the bed at 44" is too small , I do Not want a huge stick built trailer if I did I would not have bought the Scamp
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I know I can live with your decision.

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Old 04-11-2013, 06:05 PM   #11
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Byron over 4 weeks ago I sent an E- Mail to Scamp asking for a price on a Scamp Deluxe. I waited a week NO answer so I called them and was told to resend the E-Mail which I did. Again another week passes NO quote Again I call and 3 days later I receive my quote only it's missing half the options I requested. Again I contact Scamp and they assure me they will correct the quote, 3 days later they E-Mail me a quote "The same Quote with the same options missing". Again I contact them and again I wait and again I get a quote with the same options missing. Now I call and E- Mail Kent Eveland and his son Micah . Micah answers my E- Mail and says he will resolve the problem . 10 days later NOTHING I gave up I think i was more than diligent . I like my Scamp 16 but the bed at 44" is too small , I do Not want a huge stick built trailer if I did I would not have bought the Scamp
When I ordered my 13' I had to do it all by phone a snail mail. Scamp didn't have email. I think they're much more equipped to do things via phone than e-mail. If you're still interested in a Scamp call and asked for their information packet including price list for options. That's what I did, once I had the standard options all listed I called and talked to Wayne and him and I had several conversations to solidify the options I wanted. I got exactly what I ordered. It will take a few months to get a trailer.
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:12 PM   #12
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steve look at lil snoozy click on these links HOME and Small Travel Trailer: Camper: Smoakin Concepts Composites base price around 17000
X2 to what BAMA said.

It's worth a look.

Some have ordered just the shell and finished them out themselves.
Alan Smoake will deal with the customer any way they like.

I can understand the temptation to a stick trailer. Millions of them out there, upfront cost is cheap, and they have financing. 'Course there is a reason for all three. lol.

I just got a Snoozy and haven't had time to post the pics I took today.

And there is a 2012 for sale with all options at the less than base price.
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I like my Scamp 16 but the bed at 44" is too small , I do Not want a huge stick built trailer if I did I would not have bought the Scamp
If it is a big bed that you want, then maybe check out the new Trillium 4500. Tom Young, (the owner) tells me that they sacrificed on the width of the front dinette to make the bed a full sized queen. No bathroom though.

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Old 04-11-2013, 06:55 PM   #14
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I understand your frustration and have often said all molded trailers aren't for everyone. But did you see this on the Escape Trailer website?

2013, 19’ Escape, $27,392.00.
Includes all of our2013 Standard Features as well as the following options; Air Conditioning,Additional Window Over Sink, Bike Rack Ready, Dual 6V Batteries, ExteriorStorage Box, Microwave, Opening Window in Bathroom, Stereo, 2 Captains ReadingLights over the Bed, Thermal Windows with Extra Insulation. This trailer hasbeen pre wired for Solar and has Spectra Red Graphics. This trailer isavailable for viewing at Escape Trailer Industries during normal business hours.

And then there's this:
May - One Trailer to Elkton, Maryland, One Trailer to Ottawa, ON, - Delivery Date Approx 24. Please note there is room for ONE more trailer on this truck.

Good luck in your decision.
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