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Old 02-03-2007, 02:24 PM   #15
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...I wired the Element myself so somewhat familar with the plastic popping - crawling around - cursing process!
I ran both charge and brake wires from the trailer connector to under the hood entirely underneath my Sienna (outside, not through the interior), so I didn't need to pop a single plastic panel. Of course the brake controller is wired under the dash, but even that didn't require popping any panels out. It's an option to consider, especially on a van with so many readily available recesses places to route wires under the floor.
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Old 02-03-2007, 04:12 PM   #16
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Patrick: Though I've had my Element just a few months I feel separation anxiety at the thought of parting with it. Finally I found a vehicle with real headroom! But, if I wanted to tow something larger than a 13 I would have to get a pickup, probably a Ridgeline to stick with Honda. It would hurt getting rid of the Element.
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Old 02-03-2007, 05:10 PM   #17
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I ran both charge and brake wires from the trailer connector to under the hood entirely underneath my Sienna (outside, not through the interior), so I didn't need to pop a single plastic panel. Of course the brake controller is wired under the dash, but even that didn't require popping any panels out. It's an option to consider, especially on a van with so many readily available recesses places to route wires under the floor.
I will investgate doing it that way. It was actually very easy to pop panels on the Element, but the Odyssey might be a different animal so underneath might be the ticket to an easy install.
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Old 02-04-2007, 12:16 AM   #18
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My Element had the 4 pin, and I ran the others underneath.

The Jeep is SUPPOSED to have a 7 pin plug and play. Well, it plugged easily enough, but did not play well with others.

Eric, Liz and I pulled our hair out trying to figure out where the factory brake line was installed, only to find out they "forgot" to put it in the loom, along with the charge line. The back up lights were there tho.. THATS useful

I had it run underneath, along with charge line at a trailer place on friday just to get it over with.

It works great.
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Old 02-05-2007, 02:13 AM   #19
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My biggest complaint so far: no Auxilary input jack or MP3 capability on the CD player! Honda is so last century in the audio department!
Mom's got an Odyssey...radio has a logo on it "XM Ready"...which means ready for a $700 upgrade from the dealer. Honda customer service agreed that "XM ready" should mean what it means but could offer no solution or explanation. $80 add-on tuner gives OK service.
Also no compass, no trip computer, no temperature reading...and this is a pretty loaded van! Hard pressed to get 22-24 MPG even though it has cylinder shutdown (runs on 3 cylinders when it can). Suspension members are stamped steel.

Dad's got an Aztek...OnStar assistance and satellite phone, XM built in, and steering wheel controls, AWD, 3500 towing cap., trip computer, cast aluminum subframes, and the car even emails every month with a diagnostic check! Avg MPG about 22.

The Odyssey will go this year, and will be replaced by an Outlook/Acadia/Enclave with the superior telematics.

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Old 02-05-2007, 09:32 AM   #20
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I'd have to go with Honda engineering over American bling every day, but my Ody does have outside temp in the odometer area and steering wheel radio controls.
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Old 02-05-2007, 09:56 AM   #21
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Patrick,
We have not owned an Element, but if we had, I am sure we would have shared the same feelings having to let it go.

On the other side of the coin - your new van is an excellent choice. We bought our Odyssey new in 04 and quite frankly, it is the best car we have ever had. Just a suggestion - when you have around 20,000 miles on your van, you might want to try a K and N air filter for more efficient fuel consumption. Combine that with a top tier fuel and a high quality synthetic engine oil, and you should see much better mpg. Not towing, cruise set at 65, car gives us 32 mpg. now. Don
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:03 AM   #22
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Excellent advice Donald, thank you very much!

EDIT: And may I add, if we get 32 it will be 6+ more than our 4-cyc boxy Element ever got and we will be happy campers, even if getting that mileage while not camping!
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:21 AM   #23
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Stock air filter, but Mobil I oil, and I keep checking it because I don't believe it, but Donald's mileage figure is right on.

As we have now achieved the cherished goal of having only one car that kind of mileage is great for a large vehicle which can also drag our big Burro without complaining.
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:02 PM   #24
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...Suspension members are stamped steel...
While I am amazed at the intricate [b]aluminum alloy castings which GM is building into a number of its vehicles - technology which was reserved for exotics a few years ago - I see nothing wrong with stamped steel. Evey material has its advantages and disadvantages, and in some applications stamped and welded steel delivers better strength and durability than cast aluminum.

The Aztek is a short-wheelbase GM minivan without sliding doors (and there's nothing wrong with that); the rest of the same series uses stamped steel rear suspensions, with only the Versa-trak all-wheel-drive version getting the light alloy, or the subframe. The expensive material was used to get the job done for the low-volume production variation, and the steel stamping was expensively tooled up for the high-volume variation.

I wouldn't take the appearance of some silvery metal as an indication of [b]value.
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Old 02-19-2007, 12:01 AM   #25
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Well, we traded in our beloved Element yesterday on a Honda Odyssey EX, moving from a 1,500# towing limit to 3,500#. Not only will the road cruising be a little (lot?) more pleasant, but should that Bigfoot or Burro or Casita 17,' that looks like a must have, become available, we'll be able to hook it up and drive away.

As the final deal breaker on the purchase, I'm having the Honda dealer install the Odyssey towing package for just over what the parts alone would have cost me from a Honda parts discounter (a breath-taking $625 for hitch, wiring harness, tranny cooler, power steering cooler, and air diverter. Honda is very proud of its parts.).

But the avatar picture will remain, a reminder of the good times had with the Element.


Patrick, I feel for you....Even though I bought a new Toyota Rav 4 with the 269hp V6 a month ago....we just had to kep the 2003 Element in the family...we just love it so much.
I am however looking forward to the extra power for pulling my T@B this summer!

And seeing Gina telling people that she had parted with her Element was simply a sad state of affairs!!

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Old 02-19-2007, 01:01 AM   #26
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Oh, I can beat that now..

today, I sold my 13 footer to a stranger!
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:53 AM   #27
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For whats its worth

I still tow my Burro with my Element....

So its down to two......
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:56 PM   #28
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Hi, new guy here. I have an Element and am looking around for a 13 footer... probably either a Scamp or a Burro if I can find one.

I know Patrick ran electric brakes on his Scamp... what about the other (2?) remaining Element owners? Do you folks run electric brakes as well? (I know one of you has a Burro)

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