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Old 04-04-2007, 09:36 AM   #29
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You got a good deal.
My Odyssey is the only automobile I have ever purchased new from a Dealer. Since I got it for less than MSRP, my Dealer was not going to conceed any profit on the accessories. I wound up getting only the coolers from the dealership, and buying the hitch and harness separately and installing them myself.

Frederick,

Are you using a WDH with your Odyssey? If so, what kind? Don't want to hijack the thread, so PM me if you don't mind.

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Old 04-04-2007, 09:50 AM   #30
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Hi there, Hustonfamily!

I had brakes on my Burro/Element combo. I towed for a bit without them hooked up, but when I got them working and the controller installed, oh my, what a difference!

You will thank yourself for having brakes. You will increase your stopping power and safety factor 10 fold.
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:33 PM   #31
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Thanks. Patrick had given me some feedback on the Element forum... I guess what I'm wondering is... if I find a good deal on a Burro (or Scamp) which doesn't have electric brakes, should I go for it... and then later, could I have it retrofitted with brakes (not sure if that requires an entire new axle or what). It's a 'long way' in price between some used 13 footers and a brand new scamp... I figure I could do a fair amount of upgrading (I like what one/you?/ Burro owner did with his paint job... would love to do something similar in Atomic Blue Metallic ).

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Hi there, Hustonfamily!

I had brakes on my Burro/Element combo. I towed for a bit without them hooked up, but when I got them working and the controller installed, oh my, what a difference!

You will thank yourself for having brakes. You will increase your stopping power and safety factor 10 fold.
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Old 04-04-2007, 01:41 PM   #32
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Thanks. Patrick had given me some feedback on the Element forum... I guess what I'm wondering is... if I find a good deal on a Burro (or Scamp) which doesn't have electric brakes, should I go for it... and then later, could I have it retrofitted with brakes (not sure if that requires an entire new axle or what). It's a 'long way' in price between some used 13 footers and a brand new scamp... I figure I could do a fair amount of upgrading (I like what one/you?/ Burro owner did with his paint job... would love to do something similar in Atomic Blue Metallic ).
Look here for a nice looking 13' U-haul on ebay. Says 1100#s and I believe they have surge brakes on them. Good luck Dave.
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Old 04-04-2007, 02:51 PM   #33
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... a nice looking 13' U-haul on ebay. Says 1100#s and I believe they have surge brakes on them...
I have seen surge brakes in photos of two U-Haul Vacation Trailers (VT, the 16' model), but they are not on the U-Haul Camper Trailers (CT, the 13' model) which I have seen in photos or "in person". The U-Haul manuals in the FiberglassRV Document Center are for the CT, and don't show brakes.

While the quality of the images in the eBay ad is mediocre, the coupler does not appear to me to incorporate a surge brake mechanism.

I think the surge brakes are a valuable feature, and certainly relevant to tow vehicle compatibility for the larger model which has them.
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Thanks Brian for correcting me. I had a vague memory surge brakes on U-haul trailers. Dave
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Old 04-04-2007, 04:51 PM   #35
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I saw that u-haul... it was just a little rougher looking than I was hoping for (I'm not much of a restoration person)... also leads me to ask if those swamp coolers work very well in humid climates? (it had a broken one... I also wondered if it could be replaced with a roof mounted AC unit, but I noticed there was a thread somewhere here which suggested they were too heavy, unless the shell was specifically designed for it?)

There also just earlier sold on eBay, a very nice Burro in Corpus Christi which I was hoping to get, but one of those automated eBayers (I guess that's probably everyone but me) came in and swept it away from me. I should have kept the link to it so you could check it out. It was in great shape and purportedly in good working order. It ended up going for about $3500. I had even made the emergency call to the local hitch installer and set up an appointment to get the E ready. I'm keeping my appointment... definitely commited to getting something. It may just end up being a financed brand new Scamp (I know... several months from the time I finally decide to order). I'll keep looking for something used... a while longer.

One other thing... I'm not mistaken am I? most all the E's are going with 2" receivers... correct? (sort of a better for me anyway, since I have a nice 2" bike rack left over from a Dodge Durango I used to have)

Thanks for everyone's comments.
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:45 PM   #36
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Yep, you want a 2", and a very good idea to get the hitch installed for that sudden opportunity that will require a quick cross-state jaunt!

Good luck!
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Old 04-08-2007, 06:37 PM   #37
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Well, we traded in our beloved Element yesterday on a Honda Odyssey EX, moving from a 1,500# towing limit to 3,500#. Not only will the road cruising be a little (lot?) more pleasant, but should that Bigfoot or Burro or Casita 17,' that looks like a must have, become available, we'll be able to hook it up and drive away.

As the final deal breaker on the purchase, I'm having the Honda dealer install the Odyssey towing package for just over what the parts alone would have cost me from a Honda parts discounter (a breath-taking $625 for hitch, wiring harness, tranny cooler, power steering cooler, and air diverter. Honda is very proud of its parts.).

But the avatar picture will remain, a reminder of the good times had with the Element.

Hi patrick,
I heard through the forum, Nancy, that you installed your own Brake controller on your honda element. Are there any hidden secrets to getting this set up. My husband is going to attempt it, . We got the voyager model of the tokonsha(?) brake controller plus the 7 way plug. Would really appreciate some advice.

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Old 04-09-2007, 09:33 AM   #38
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Funny you should mention this, as I just had a similar request over at the Element forum where my pictures of the process had mysteriously disappeared! Anyway, check out this thread and see if it helps you: http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/sh...7379#post407379

It's an easy job on the Element, a bit more of a challenge on the Odyssey.
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Old 05-15-2007, 05:04 PM   #39
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Ok Element owners and former Element owners....do you know what the towing capacity is for an Element? One of the dealers here has a 2004 which I might be interested in if I knew it could handle my Surfside....thoughts?
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Old 05-15-2007, 05:39 PM   #40
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I think 1500lbs-I would check with Gina D.on this.She used a Element for a tow vehicle.
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:01 PM   #41
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It's 1,500, and not a pound more! Okay, so I did 300# more but that's no excuse for the rest of you!
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:44 AM   #42
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Yes, it's 1500. My Burro came in at 1450 FULLY loaded (Sans water in the tank) and it *Felt* like I could do more..but I didn't.

I know others, including the Naughty Patrick, who have done/do over the limit.. but..

Remember, the only thing scarier than a trailer accident is a lawyer.. I don't recommend going over. Even if an accident is someone else's fault, that legal beagles will nail YOU because you exceeded the limit.

I was actually towing and pulled over by the CHP once because the young buck officer thought I was not supposed to be towing ANYTHING with the Element. He was ready to nail me for it. He was actually angry at me when he came to my window "You can't be towing with this!!!"

I was able to prove the cars rating and the trailer weight, and after a strict safety check for lights, brakes and switch, lights etc, and him doing the woodpecker thing on my fiberglass (He felt it and knocked all around with his hands!) I was on my way.
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