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Old 08-10-2016, 12:55 PM   #15
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Sorry, but it seems to me the repairman said a BS. Its never hurt an engine to run below max power.
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According to the Sep 2016 Popular Mechanics the best portable generator is the Generac iq2000. Rated as the quitest at 60.5 CB. At $800

The HF generator is louder but it's also a bigger engine. It's a 125cc engine and is rated at 2500 watts peak/2200 watts running. The Generac is a 79cc engine. A bigger engine means more noise, but less strain. There are always trade offs and compromises.
One of the reviewers tested the HF generator with professional calibration equipment and he said it would run 2100 watts, compared to 1600 running watts on the Generac. I'm sure the Generac has a better quality engine, like the Honda and the Yamaha, but it's also more than twice the price. Also for the price of the repairs I can buy a new generator. I was just wondering if anyone within earshot had used one and what they thought about it.
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Old 08-10-2016, 01:20 PM   #17
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Sorry, but it seems to me the repairman said a BS. Its never hurt an engine to run below max power.

I agree with you, I think it's one of those things people make up. Although when I googled it I did find people who were saying the same thing, and if it's on the Internet it has to be true!
I have a feeling that when a company like Honda from Japan moves their manufacturing to China quality usually suffers.


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Old 08-10-2016, 03:00 PM   #18
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I have 2 Ryobi 2200I generators.They come ready to parallel, built in wheels and telescopic handle. You can buy a set at Home Depot for under $1100 original dividuallyfor $550. They are very quiet and good run time on a gallon of gas.
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Old 08-10-2016, 03:53 PM   #19
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I once melted a piston on a 1965 VW Camper in high heat with a headwind on one side of the bus. Air Cooled engines heat up in hot weather. I'm thing that the repairman thought the internal fan in the generator was not running fast enough to keep it cool and I just might agree with him.
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I once melted a piston on a 1965 VW Camper in high heat with a headwind on one side of the bus. Air Cooled engines heat up in hot weather. I'm thing that the repairman thought the internal fan in the generator was not running fast enough to keep it cool and I just might agree with him.

I remember those VW air cooled engines, they were workhorses! Porsche used the same air cooled engine to go 200mph. My wife drove a Beetle while going to college. It so simple. The oil filter was just a screen that was cleaned when changing the oil. The air filter used the old oil to filter the air. Simple and nice!


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Mark, I like your "take" on all of this..even the last remarks of your first post about "keeping it positive" basically whether you like gens or not!

If you get this HF gen, I hope you will keep us posted. About 4 yrs ago, I bought the Champion 3500/4000. It's LOUD! But, it's VERY dependable. I always wished it had the "ECO" mode, but now, I'm not so certain! I use it on a model flying field where I go once a year. There's NO issues about "Noise" there as there's several running- especially at night.

There is ONE thing though I read on the gen you posted and want to pass it on....JUST in case this could be an issue for you. Hope this doesnt come across as being "Negative"- certainly not at Gens..but a concern for this one. This came off of one of their reviews:

"It just so happens I work in a large shop which repairs military generators. After buying this generator, I could not wait until I could put this inverter generator on a calibrated load bank. The generator is rated at 2200 watts with a peak of 2500. The little generator just will not do it. It will hold a little over 1900 watts for long periods, and kick the over load light on around its peak of 2100 watts. Again,the equipment we tested this with is calibrated yearly. It seems to put out very clean power to run your electronics. Another draw back to the unit is the generator is wire to stay in the econ mode which means the engine will slow down without a load. This is not always a bad thing because it save on fuel; however, it takes a split second to spin up to full throttle. This causes problems when items such as small compressors, saws, RV A/C, etc. are used. Most other generators in this size have an econ switch which when switch off allows the generator to run at full power. At full power this generator would have the power need to start small to medium motors. Having said all of this, the generators would be great for electronics and lights/ small heaters. It seems to be well built with good quality control done. I would not recommend this for refrigerators because the sudden voltage drop and then surge of power when the motor kicks in can damage the refrigerator."

Even at 1900 watts it still outperforms the competition. I'm sure the Honda doesn't put out exactly 1700 watts, I bet it's less. I don't understand how the ECO mode on a generator damages motors at startup. Electric motors are just a coil of wire and some bearings. I've seen houses that brown out when the AC turns on, and their ACs are 20 years old. They have never had a problem. I know people that have the old rounded corner refrigerators and when they come on the lights dim, 30 years later they're still running!
I ran my generator on ECO mode for four years and never had a problem with the AC. Has someone done research on how it affects an electric motor? What exactly happens when there is a low voltage for a short period at startup that will damage an electric motor.
I've had capacitors go out on my AC and the motor locked for full day! It was so hot I couldn't even touch it! I just changed the capacitor and the motor is still working today!
I know everyone here has had a capacitor go out on an electric motor and the motor just sit humming without starting for hours if not days! Only to replace the starting capacitor and it runs like a champ.
I read that review and believed it, until I got to the electric motor damage. Sometimes they send these people to a one week training and now they're engineers! Besides our refrigerators don't have a compressor anyway! Jk
Thanks Darryl, I really appreciate your help,
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A buddy of mine bought a HF generator 6 years ago for the deer hunting shack
The main reason he bought it was it was cheap but so is he.
It runs almost constantly during the 10 days of deer hunting season and has never failed.
Yes , it's not a Honda but it serves its purpose.
I would rather go camping , then sit at home admiring my shiny Honda generator.
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But Steve, You are not able to complain about the high price and Marky, I have one of those old air cooled VWs, 1974 Thing, want a buy it ??
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But Steve, You are not able to complain about the high price and Marky, I have one of those old air cooled VWs, 1974 Thing, want a buy it ??
We took a buddy's VW thing deer hunting back in the 70's .
We drove for 4 hours up to Northern Minnesota .
It was colder riding in the Thing than it was outdoors.
We had some cans of beer stored in the doors which froze within an hour. Plus it was useless in snow!!
So thanks but no thanks
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A buddy of mine bought a HF generator 6 years ago for the deer hunting shack
The main reason he bought it was it was cheap but so is he.
It runs almost constantly during the 10 days of deer hunting season and has never failed.
Yes , it's not a Honda but it serves its purpose.
I would rather go camping , then sit at home admiring my shiny Honda generator.

That's what I wanted to hear Steve, about someone who had actually owned one. Whether it be good or bad. I'm going to take the plunge and buy it. It's too hot in South Texas. I was reading the manual and I need to run it 24 hours, then change the oil before I can put a full load on it. I'll let you guys know how the generator performed over the weekend.
Thanks again everyone for such great responses.
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That's what I wanted to hear Steve, about someone who had actually owned one. Whether it be good or bad. I'm going to take the plunge and buy it. It's too hot in South Texas. I was reading the manual and I need to run it 24 hours, then change the oil before I can put a full load on it. I'll let you guys know how the generator performed over the weekend.
Thanks again everyone for such great responses.
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One thing to take into account is that deer season in Minnesota and Wisconsin is in November so temps are below freezing to below zero. Using any generator in 130 deg temperatures such as texas in the summer may have an affect on its operation. I know hot weather has a terrible affect on me.
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We took a buddy's VW thing deer hunting back in the 70's .

We drove for 4 hours up to Northern Minnesota .

It was colder riding in the Thing than it was outdoors.

We had some cans of beer stored in the doors which froze within an hour. Plus it was useless in snow!!

So thanks but no thanks

Steve my wife and I took a trip to Tennessee and it was snowing and really iced up. Being from south Texas where it never snows I had no experience driving on ice. The tires were also bald! The Beetle slid, hit the curb and slowly landed on its side. We climbed up the drivers side and opened the door. A truck with two guys stopped and helped me roll it back. They helped me pull out the fenders so the tires wouldn't scrape, and drove it back to Texas.


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