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Old 08-26-2013, 11:01 PM   #15
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Thanks Keith. Could you tell if PL had started bolting the axle to the frame rather than welding? Had they begun re-locating batteries to the trailer tongue? Their future truly is in their own hands. I wish them the best.

Do you plan to post similar observations and impressions from your visits to the other manufacturers' you mentioned visiting? I'm looking forward to those, as well.

Thanks again for sharing....
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Old 08-27-2013, 04:08 AM   #16
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Dale, they have starting bolting the axle to the frame. I keep pestering them about this stuff, and asked for pictures, which Cameron sent me. You're limited to a load range C Hi-Run trailer tire, size 205-75-14 the way they have it set up now. I was somewhat surprised it's not radial, but that's the deal. Apparently this tire rub issue was only for a certain period in production, but there's an old saying that goes "It's easy to lose your credibility, but hard to get it back." I think that's the situation ParkLiner finds itself in, but they keep selling trailers. We have yet to find anything else we like better in terms of layout. The one we visited a number of weeks ago sure was made well, and that one did not have tire rub issues.

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thanks for your unbiased opinion, how about scamp and casita? how do the 3 compare?
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Old 08-27-2013, 07:44 AM   #18
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Thanks Keith. Could you tell if PL had started bolting the axle to the frame rather than welding? Had they begun re-locating batteries to the trailer tongue? Their future truly is in their own hands. I wish them the best.

Do you plan to post similar observations and impressions from your visits to the other manufacturers' you mentioned visiting? I'm looking forward to those, as well.

Thanks again for sharing....
The frame I saw was not bolted it was welded but I could not see them on the actual trailers in production.

I will post on Casita and Scamp visit and tomorrow I am going to see LilSnoozy I drive right by it going home so if they are open, why not check them out too.
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Dale, they have starting bolting the axle to the frame. I keep pestering them about this stuff, and asked for pictures, which Cameron sent me. You're limited to a load range C Hi-Run trailer tire, size 205-75-14 the way they have it set up now. I was somewhat surprised it's not radial, but that's the deal. Apparently this tire rub issue was only for a certain period in production, but there's an old saying that goes "It's easy to lose your credibility, but hard to get it back." I think that's the situation ParkLiner finds itself in, but they keep selling trailers. We have yet to find anything else we like better in terms of layout. The one we visited a number of weeks ago sure was made well, and that one did not have tire rub issues.

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Frank, unfortunately I agree with you. I say unfortunately because I think PL has the best layout and I really like the channel roof design and no ac on the roof. I really hope they get it together. If you are buying one I would look real close at it prior to delivery for quality control issues. Check the wiring for neatness and bundling and look at all cuts into the fiberglass were vents and such are. I saw some cuts that crossed in the corners which should never happen with a template cut. Now the glass guy may go back in and cover it with gel coat at a final stage but when I asked they said caulk...
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:17 AM   #20
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Here are my impressions of Casita and Scamp from my visit.
Casita, Rice Texas- The plant is large and just off the highway, the parking lot was full with employee vehicles so It seems there are a number of them. They have a separate area for mold and glass and then a production building. I was say there were at least 8 in production on my visit. The staff was very friendly and went over the unit with me outlining their product. They highlight that the floor is part of the glass mold over the Scamp and other products. I was able to go into a 16 spirit which was the model I liked. They sales guy showed me the roof and its stand up issue. He was very open about it and appeared to like the 17 overall. They seem to push the 17 over the 16 and I felt I was being directed. I will say that my wife agreed with them, so it was probably more of saving me from myself. Casita has visible quality and the employees I spoke with had been there a long time. i think they also drank the grape juice and loved what they build.

Scamp- Backus Mn.
The plant is on a two lane road in a rural area, when I arrived it was a Saturday so they were only operating a finish crew of two employees. The sales building is a old out building with two offices and a reception area. We waited until the sails guys got in as we arrived early. The plant is large and very clean, the sales guy took me into the plant for a tour. Scamp also has a separate mold and fiberglass area which I did not see. Inside the production area they had about 15-20 units in varied stages, the place is clean and I liked what I saw. The 16 unit which I was interested in, is designed well and again you could see a company that has it down to a science. I wish they still put the AC in a cabinet and off the roof but they haven’t done that in a while. As far as what I have read here about the sales and internet issues with Scamp. The sales guys are older gentlemen who are very knowledgeable and friendly, I felt welcome and not pushed. I would say that in the production area they have updated tools and processes in place. I think that they feel they are selling what they can and have a wait list the way it is. So why get more customers and place their delivery dates out 6 months and just upset people for no reason. They seem to be happy with their market share and profits at this point. Again they could go big but why?

My overall is Casita seems to be the overall winner in my uneducated consumer impression, but due to the floor-plan of the Scamp 16 deluxe you can get a bigger bed and screen door on without going to the Casita 17 so I am confused between the two.
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Here are my impressions of Casita and Scamp from my visit. ........
Great summary. Thanks for taking the time to write it up.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:02 AM   #22
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Keith, thanks for taking the time to write all this up and share here. Only thing I don't like about Casita is the bathtubbed in wood floor. Water goes to the floor and stays there. Some, undetected behind the rat fur moving down along the interior wall. You can, if interested, search spongy floor to read more about floor rot on a one of the casita forums. A while back, last I read, they also had no R rated insulation I don't know if that's important to you or not. Cheers.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:19 AM   #23
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Yeah I have a called over cut on the outside of my fridge...I notice it but its not horrible. Mine being #003 without a wiring harness its neatly laid out and well secured from what I can see. Perhaps if they start bolting the axles on will clear up the rub issue. I really love the design would be a shame if they went out of business. They should be paying attention to what we talk about here to improve and keep growing. I hope they last they make a great trailer...just need to make a few improvements.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:19 AM   #24
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I was at Parkliner last week. Cameron was very accommodating and showed me whatever a wanted to see. The crew had went home for the day so no work was being done I checked and they are bolting the axle and have moved the batteries to the tongue. He seemed to think those problems were behind them.
I was impressed by the product. Everything seemed to be quality made. I wasn't impressed with their shop. Spraying fiberglass in the same room with the other workers will not impress OSHA either . He said they were moving part of the operation into another part of the building so maybe that will improve.

I admire anyone who can produce a product like this from the ground up and I plan to buy one of these campers in the near future.
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:03 AM   #25
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Deryk,
Can you share what you mean by "cut on the outside of my fridge"
Are you talking about what Frank mentioned, The Shell opening cutouts are crossed in the corners instead of a Radial Cut? If so, does anyone think this could stress crack over the years from flex? Thanks.
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Just as a side note, the cross cuts on the corners of cutouts is a pretty common find on most of the popular brand fiberglass trailers that I have looked at. Including my Scamp. They are pretty small though and you dont see them or know about them until you remove the trim from around the cut out. Have not seen any filled in with gelcoat as was mentioned though on the other brands - all easily covered with trim instead. Have a 21 year old trailer that has a few and no stress cracks have resulted from them.
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Ken mine was over cut a bit for the cutout where the exterior fridge controls are...I doubt it will be an issue and if it ever was I could fix it myself but the spot would probably get a sticker or something to cover it....I have alot of fibreglass experience... no gel coating experience. Im just a crazy Virgo who notices that stuff lol.
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When I was growing I remember hearing my dad saying,
"The sign of a good carpenter is his ability to cover up his mistakes."

I think I got my dry sense of humor from my dad, so I'm near sure
this was one of his jokes. He's gone now, but memories are still with me.

Pride in workmanship isn't as great as it was before we were all born.
When I do wood work, I make those kinds of cuts with a skil saw and
then I stop short of the corner mark and finish the cut with a hand saw.
Nice clean, sharp finish. So many just don't take the time to do perfect.
Zip, zip........it's done. Cover with caulk. I think I took after my grand-dad
from helping him build cabinets and re-roof houses. If I didn't do it right
(his way) he wouldn't let me help.
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