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Old 09-27-2006, 02:54 PM   #29
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I didn't know that however I do speculate that neither one of them have received enough funding to accomplish their mission.

This thread started off as a campsite in a National Forest. Sounds like the National Park Service and the National Forest service have some boundry issues. Why not let the forest people worry about the trees and let the park people worry about picknick tables and camp sites?
An interesting thought, Darwin, but it seems that "we the people" want to be able to enjoy all of our public lands. Both need to be managed, and available to the public for those uses that the public see fit. The issue is complex.


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Old 09-27-2006, 03:57 PM   #30
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Hi Darwin - Al here

The National Forests here in NC actually have as many if not more camping facilities than you'll find on the Blue Ridge Parkway or in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. In addition to several developed campgrounds, the Forest Service offers 'dispersed' camping in many areas. In some cases, these are nothing more than a spot beside a FS road just large enough for a vehicle and tent (or, in my case, a Scamp). In others, there will be a tent pad, picnic table, lamp post and grill or fire pit. Usually, these are free and available on a first come first served basis.

Just outside the entrance to the Joyce Kilmer Memorial Forest is Horse Cove campground. Its spllit into two sections; most of the sites on the upper level are beside a small branch which feeds into Santeelah Creek that runs next to the dozen or so lower sites. No showers but it does have flush toilets and water spigots. I don't think there's a prettier campground in western NC and, at $10/night, its a steal.

A mile or so away is a single lane FS dirt road that runs for about five miles along this same creek. About twenty sites with picnic tables, fire pits and lamp posts are scattered about and the price - FREE!

There's even a cabin available ($25/night) should you want to bring friends along

Anyone not taking advantage of the many recreational opportunites offered in our National Forests is really missing out.

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Old 09-27-2006, 03:59 PM   #31
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It seems Roger is correct. We need to contact our representitives & make our wishes known.

There is a NEW push to get the public input about fees.


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Old 09-27-2006, 04:03 PM   #32
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Then we have the Bureau of Land Management. I was intending on moving out west once (China Lake, CA) and it is surrounded by BLM land and at the time would send you maps for free. I requested them and got a case, (rather large cardboard box) of BLM maps.

Sounds like another government agency that could be consolidated into one single agency and just may be able to do it all with about the people.

To many directors, to many managers and not enough people on the ground keeping things in repair and available. All the Money spent on the office people.

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Old 09-27-2006, 04:16 PM   #33
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I wasn't trying to criticize, but to inform. It's easy to understand why it might not be clear, particularly in some parts of the country. Darwin, in Virginia there's only two National Forests, totaling 1.6 million acres. Here in Oregon there are 14 National Forests covering close to 17 million acres. That's approximately 30% of Oregon's Land. Oregon has 1 National Park. Nearby Washington State is close to the same except there's at least 3 National Parks in Washington State.

In either case the rules for recreational use are vastly different between National Parks and National Forests. Example: In the National Forest camping is allowed anyplace that isn't marked "no camping". In the National Parks you can only camp in designated spots, this includes the backcountry hike-in places in most parks. You're also required to stay on the trail in many National Parks if you're hiking. Not so in the National Forest.

The recreation philosophy of each is vastly different. The National Park service concentrates people into small areas. The Forest Service encourages dispersed camping.

I'm not trying to say one is better than the other just different. If you prefer the atmosphere of the National Parks, that's great. If you prefer the solitude of the National Forests, that's great too.

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