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Old 09-14-2014, 01:49 PM   #57
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so your thinking that all the couples who own a Scamp deluxe have one of them sleeping on the floor?
I do not think about it, nor do I make it may business. Just report on what I know, a 44" bed suits one person IMHO.
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Old 09-14-2014, 02:06 PM   #58
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Lucky me, Ginny hardly ever wakes up until dawn. I used to wake frequently until I started taking 2000 units of Vitamin D before bedtime. Hardly ever now.
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Old 09-14-2014, 02:43 PM   #59
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Staying where hardsides are required (often A-liners count as soft sides).
Nope, Aliners are considered hardside trailers and are allowed in bear-country CGs where tent-side popups are not.

I owned a Burro for 3 years, have owned a couple of stick built travel trailers, and how have an Aliner Ranger 12. I just took my first camping trip with it this weekend.

It sounds to me like you really prefer the Scamp, and the only reason you thought hard about Aliner was the storage situation. But as you have gleaned by now, there are ways to fit a Scamp into a garage. It can be well worth the extra garage door mods or extra few minutes per camping trip to make this happen.

I've always had a desire to try one of these A frames, so now I am. Don't know if I will stick with it or not, time will tell. I tend to rotate to a different trailer about every 3 years, it seems like (not that I plan it that way). Currently I like the fuel economy (17 mpg on this trip @ 65-68 MPH, vs 14 mpg with the Burro @ 60-62 MPH) and being able to see over the top of the trailer while moving, and I really like the wide, tall window for seeing the world outside. My V6 Highlander hardly knows the 1500 lb, 5' high Aliner is behind it. But I can see daylight here and there between the panels, so I bet the skeeters could find a way in. And I am concerned about the greater opportunity for eventual leaks as the Aliner ages. Oh, and the Aliner's countertops are very low (I find myself stooping to wash dishes) and all storage is down low... not so convenient.

Most floor problems come from leaks that occur at the interior plumbing, window/door openings, and roof/wall seams. Choosing a Scamp eliminates the 3rd one on that list, but not the other 2.

You can have a microwave in a Scamp, it just might be a little harder to find a spot for it.

A Scamp will hold its value very well for resale later on. Aliner, not so much; I got my 4 year old Aliner for 2/3 of original price. A 4 year old Scamp is likely to bring 80% or more of MSRP.
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Old 09-14-2014, 03:05 PM   #60
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Nope, Aliners are considered hardside trailers and are allowed in bear-country CGs where tent-side popups are not.
Also, unlike a pop up they only take 5-10 seconds to set up. The problem is setting up draws attention. We stopped at a grocery store in Wyoming to do some shopping. I set up and went in to use the porta pot. Here's some guy with his nose against the window trying to look in. Luckily the windows were mirror glass. I opened the door and startled him. Twenty minutes later I got into the store. Raz
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Old 09-14-2014, 03:50 PM   #61
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Hmmmm. aliner.com sez 30 seconds to set up and the well rehearsed video was a little longer.
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Old 09-14-2014, 05:39 PM   #62
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Also, unlike a pop up they only take 5-10 seconds to set up. The problem is setting up draws attention. We stopped at a grocery store in Wyoming to do some shopping. I set up and went in to use the porta pot. Here's some guy with his nose against the window trying to look in. Luckily the windows were mirror glass. I opened the door and startled him. Twenty minutes later I got into the store. Raz

Wow, you must be very agile. I've owned two Aliners and Columbia Northwest used to advertise 30 second set up. The fastest I was ever able to do it (when I was trying to see how fast it could be done) was 19 seconds. That was from standing outside the door with both side latches disengaged. Took 19 seconds to push the roof up, step inside, raise and latch each side.

The only leak I ever had in either Aliner was along the front roof section hinge when I was driving for 2 hours in one of the heaviest rainstorms I ever encountered (ahh, Florida in the summer). I found a sleeping bag on the dinette bed had a small moist area, maybe 4" by 4".

On the other hand, upon returning home from Backus after picking up my Scamp I pulled both Fantastic Fans and put butyl tape underneath them because I had heard from other Scamp owners that many leak within a year or two. What I found is that Scamp's idea of a "quality" installation involves cutting a hole, dropping it in, and running a bead of silicon around the edge and over the rivets. NO butyl tape used, at least in my Scamp 19 Deluxe. Unfortunately, I finished the reinstallation with silicon, then was told I should have used a different edge sealant. A year after that, I had an acquaintance in NH who called me telling me their almost new Scamp was leaking around the Fantastic Fan. No butyl tape there, either. My point is ALL TRAILERS HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO SPRING A LEAK!

Many valid points have been made for both trailers but IMHO, an Aliner is more fuel efficient and easier to tow and will fit in any garage, but the Scamp is more convenient and comfortable once on site. And frankly, I personally don't give a damn about resale value because I do not make purchasing decisions based on resale value; I buy what I like and what will best suit my needs. So in choosing one has to decide where he/she is willing to compromise.


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Old 09-14-2014, 06:05 PM   #63
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Nope, Aliners are considered hardside trailers and are allowed in bear-country CGs where tent-side popups are not.
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You may be right, I have no personal experience except one thread on a blog and at least one report from an Aliner owner.
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Old 09-14-2014, 06:24 PM   #64
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On the other hand, upon returning home from Backus after picking up my Scamp I pulled both Fantastic Fans and put butyl tape underneath them because I had heard from other Scamp owners that many leak within a year or two. What I found is that Scamp's idea of a "quality" installation involves cutting a hole, dropping it in, and running a bead of silicon around the edge and over the rivets. NO butyl tape used, at least in my Scamp 19 Deluxe. Unfortunately, I finished the reinstallation with silicon, then was told I should have used a different edge sealant. A year after that, I had an acquaintance in NH who called me telling me their almost new Scamp was leaking around the Fantastic Fan. No butyl tape there, either. My point is ALL TRAILERS HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO SPRING A LEAK!
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Mine? Properly installed and ten years without a problem.
While I disagree with your assessment of "Scamp's idea of a quality installation" ,your other points are valid.
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Old 09-14-2014, 06:30 PM   #65
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Wow, you must be very agile.
Yup. Perhaps it's quicker with a Chalet??
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Columbia Northwest invented the design. Chalet is a copy cat. Maybe better. I don't know. I've only had experience with the two Aliners.


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Old 09-15-2014, 12:45 AM   #67
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If you use laminate flooring get the type that is clearly marker "Waterproof". The smallest spill left over night in a throw rug can destroy some laminates.
Good point, but even with "waterproof" laminate flooring... I find it best, as I earlier described, to seal the surface. We have laminate in our house and it is sealed then maintained once a year, just like our camper floor.
I would do the same with sheet vinyl as well, even though it is seamless.
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Who would of thought to use Red Max Pro on the floor?
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It's not the surface of laminate floor that's the problem. It's what happens if any water gets in the joints or at the ends, or gets under the flooring that is the issue. Again, for a few extra $$ for a small amount, the stuff marked "waterproof" is a good investment.
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Who would of thought to use Red Max Pro on the floor?
Dave & Paula
What!? Do you think it would work on a floor??
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