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Old 11-20-2015, 12:09 AM   #1
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Honda Pilot towing capacity

Hi everyone
I've got keystone Bullet RV, the new one (220RBI model). I used to own 2009 Ford F-150 with 5-liter V8 (around 300 hp) for hauling and now want to buy new Honda Pilot. It has V6 and something like 260 hp (don't remember exactly). Will it be enough for towing my RV?





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Old 11-20-2015, 12:50 AM   #2
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What is the weight of the trailer, and the tongue weight? Next look in your owners manual or look on line to see what the rating of the tow vehicle is and the tongue weight rating is.
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Old 11-20-2015, 05:43 AM   #4
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Since you haven't bought one yet, don't trust salespeople or information on the Honda website. Google and download the complete "2016 Honda Pilot Owner's Manual." It's very detailed and has lots of information and caveats about towing.

Also, beware of trailer manufacturers' dry weights. They don't include fluids, options or your stuff. Most people don't realize that a lot of features they take for granted are actually options. The final towing weight is usually many hundreds of pounds more than the dry weight. Have you weighed your trailer loaded for travel?

I tow a 13' Scamp (about 1800 pounds loaded) with a 2011 FWD Pilot (250hp, 5 speed auto, rated 3500/350). Power is adequate, but I wouldn't want to be towing a high profile trailer weighing close to the rated capacity in hilly, windy, or high altitude conditions (all of which apply to where I live). One feature I miss in mine is a full manual select transmission mode. The new ones introduce two new transmissions, depending on trim, so I'm curious if either has a manual mode.

BTW, welcome to the forum! Know that this forum is devoted to all-molded fiberglass trailers (fiberglass "eggs" like Scamps and Casitas). The trailer you have is a conventional framed trailer with a skin of non-molded fiberglass sheets. You'll probably get more feedback on your situation on a general RV forum. Here we'll tell you why you'd be better off with an egg.
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Old 11-20-2015, 07:20 AM   #5
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Honda Pilot can it tow?????

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Hi everyone
I've got keystone Bullet RV, the new one (220RBI model). I used to own 2009 Ford F-150 with 5-liter V8 (around 300 hp) for hauling and now want to buy new Honda Pilot. It has V6 and something like 260 hp (don't remember exactly). Will it be enough for towing my RV?





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In our travels in buying new I found out that most vehicles built today have the CVT Transmission and they are not built to tow more than 1500#'s so make sure what make you have for a Tranny.
260HP should be able to tow about anything but can your transmission handle it. Only the Jeep Cherokee can handle towing more than 500#'s so ask questions, read your manual as the manual has all the info of the tow vehicle and how much weight the tower can handle when trailer is on board.
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Stude, the larger Hondas, including the Pilot, still use conventional automatic transmissions.
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Tow rating is a combination of many factors. Mass of vehicle to withstand forces applied to it by the trailer, braking systems, cooling systems, frame and strength of framing to uni-body allowing installation of a trailer hitch and again, more forces torqing on the vehicle. Tire size and strength. Strength of battery and charging system and ability to operate additional running, turning, and brake lights on trailer. I'm sure there's more that I have mentioned.

If engine hp alone was the sole factor then tiny, high powered sports cars would have great towing capabilities, but alas, no.

I also agree with earlier posts to verify the actual, real life weight of one's RV, dressed for travel or camping. It may surprise you very, very much. The only real way to know is to weigh the rig at a certified scale.
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Short answer (Thanks to Google) is NO


The shipping weight of your trailer is 4800 lbs, meaning the ready to go it will be in the 5500-6000 lb range.


The top tow rating for the 2016 Honda Pilot is only (?) 5000 lbs.


Again, always look at the tow ratings in the owners manual for any vehicle you are considering as a TV. What the a sales rep/other owners/Google sez is secondary to the owners manual... period.


As mentioned, this is primarily a site for smaller/lightweight, molded fiberglass travel trailers. Our sister site IRV2.com (See link for other sites at the bottom of the page) might be a lot more helpful in providing answers for your rig. Good Luck.
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So, if you really want a Pilot, it looks like you'll have to ditch the Keystone for... Oh, oh, I know... a lightweight, molded fiberglass trailer! . The Escape trailers are really nice...

Seriously, though, in your situation I'd be looking for another truck or full-frame SUV like an Expedition or Sequoia. If you want something smaller, I believe a Jeep Grand Cherokee or Dodge Durango MIGHT have more capacity. A Ram 1500 3.0L ecodiesel would be sweet, but very expensive and unwieldy in a parking lot.
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I have towed my 2008 Casita SD with my 2009 Honda Pilot in mountains, windy conditions, rain and shine with no problems. I will be using a WDH for all future trips as the tongue weight of the Casita is at the upper limit of the Pilot's capacity.
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I have just done a quick read of these comments and most seem right on, but one thing I don't see anyone mentioning so far is the GCVWR (Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating) that should be available in an owners manual or on the Honda website. Exceeding this risks warranty, insurance issues or legal issues if a problem develops or an accident occurs. Experience has taught me that I can't trust manufacturer trailer weights, or towing capabilities as told by sales people. Take the time to dot your I's, cross your T's and you'll end up with a much more satisfactory experience in the long run.
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I have just done a quick read of these comments and most seem right on, but one thing I don't see anyone mentioning so far is the GCVWR (Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating) that should be available in an owners manual or on the Honda website. Exceeding this risks warranty, insurance issues or legal issues if a problem develops or an accident occurs. Experience has taught me that I can't trust manufacturer trailer weights, or towing capabilities as told by sales people. Take the time to dot your I's, cross your T's and you'll end up with a much more satisfactory experience in the long run.
Honda spells it all out in excruciating detail in the manual. There's a chart showing how your towing capacity decreases as you load up the vehicle.
Here's a sample from my 2011 Pilot manual:
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The non-linearity in the chart reveals that Honda is not only factoring in the GCWR but also the GAWR of the rear axle.

The owner's manual is always the place to start. I'm grateful that today you can download and read the owner's manual for almost any common vehicle before you visit a showroom.
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Stick with the Ford truck ...it will do the job...chances are the Honda will not.
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Honda spells it all out in excruciating detail in the manual. There's a chart showing how your towing capacity decreases as you load up the vehicle.
Here's a sample from my 2011 Pilot manual:
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The non-linearity in the chart reveals that Honda is not only factoring in the GCWR but also the GAWR of the rear axle.

The owner's manual is always the place to start. I'm grateful that today you can download and read the owner's manual for almost any common vehicle before you visit a showroom.
The GCWR of the 2016 Pilot is on page 638 of the owner's manual, the 2011 GCWR is found on page 538 of the owner's manual....
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