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Old 05-26-2013, 10:07 PM   #57
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i'm really confused now because no one flashed at me again today and it is sunny. i'm trying to remember if i moved something heavy to a different part of the truck or the camper but i dont think i did. anyway-i appreciate the help and i do plan on going to the dealer anyway and i have to unhitch tomorrow to go into the city so can mark where the lights hit the wall and also measure the difference in height when hitched and unhitched

george that was great info on the taco...i really like the smallness for parking etc but it seems to pull just fine like the letter said. i don't understand all of it with the shifting etc but its all good news i guess. i wonder if it should be posted out here-would others be interested?

had another great day on the nh ocean front...this is rye harbor:
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Old 05-27-2013, 09:20 AM   #58
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i'm really confused now because no one flashed at me again today and it is sunny. i'm trying to remember if i moved something heavy to a different part of the truck or the camper but i dont think i did. anyway-i appreciate the help and i do plan on going to the dealer anyway and i have to unhitch tomorrow to go into the city so can mark where the lights hit the wall and also measure the difference in height when hitched and unhitched

george that was great info on the taco...i really like the smallness for parking etc but it seems to pull just fine like the letter said. i don't understand all of it with the shifting etc but its all good news i guess. i wonder if it should be posted out here-would others be interested?

had another great day on the nh ocean front...this is rye harbor:
The "letter" K is referring to is a post I pulled from the Airstream forum. Some of you may know who Andrew Thompson is from CanAm RV. Large A/S dealer, CanAm are known for setting up tow vehicles that others may not consider, for pulling rather heavy A/S trailers. In his post, Andrew pointed out the Toyota "Tachoma" ( as he calls it ) is a good vehicle for towing, so I copied his post to K in a PM. If a Taco is a good choice for a A/S, then certainly a smaller FG camper is well within it's limits.
I've long been a fan of this class of trucks. The Taco and the Frontier like I have, are a nice compromise vehicle for overall use. Small enough to easily use in the city, reasonable gas mileage empty, and legendary in how sturdy they are for towing and long life. Andrew's post was the following:

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We have several customers that tow 25-30' Airstream's and some harder toiwng other brands with Tachoma's. Many of these have been towing for several years. One I know of is approaching 200,000 miles.

In mountains it will downshift more than a Tundra but you will never save enough time on mountain grades with a Tundra to make up for the extra time the Tundra will spend in gas stations. The Tachoma has more power than any tow vehicle you could buy 30 years ago and Airstreams still went everywhere.

From a handling safety perspective I prefer the Tachoma to a full size pick up. The center of gravity is lower the width of the stance is the same on both. The suspension tuning on the Tachoma is still truck like, in that it is firm but not bone crushing. In an emergency lane change or panic stop it will outperform any full size pickup when towing a 25'. Of coarse for all the solo miles it is much more nimble.

You can dramatically improve the performance and handling of a Tachoma with a more optimal tire size. Unless you are going to carry something heavy in the bed of the truck the stock springs are fine. If you find the back end low you need to transfer more weight with your weight distribution. If you do not have the TRD model better shocks are a nice addition.

I hope this helps.

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Old 05-27-2013, 12:43 PM   #59
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from the above post:

"If you do not have the TRD model better shocks are a nice addition."

i just found the paperwork and i do have "TRD Off-Road Extra Value Package w/ Bilstein Shocks"

so this is good for towing, right. i also have V6 Tow Package for Off-Road Package-and theres a lot in that. this truck has to be ok. its got way more than the rav...

and i like the way it drives pulling better than not

i'm just gonna have fun. i'm not worrying anymore.
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Old 05-27-2013, 01:28 PM   #60
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from the above post:

"If you do not have the TRD model better shocks are a nice addition."

i just found the paperwork and i do have "TRD Off-Road Extra Value Package w/ Bilstein Shocks"

so this is good for towing, right. i also have V6 Tow Package for Off-Road Package-and theres a lot in that. this truck has to be ok. its got way more than the rav...

and i like the way it drives pulling better than not

i'm just gonna have fun. i'm not worrying anymore.
Yes, you are correct. What Andy was alluding to is that when you get the TRD package, part of that is a better quality shock absorber with a higher damping value. Both of things are good things for towing. So if a person buys a regular edition Tacoma ( not TRD ), as he suggests, spending the money on better aftermarket shocks is money well spent. The same situation applies over on the Nissan Frontier side of the street. The Nismo package provides better shocks than the non-Nismo. My truck is not Nismo equipped, so I went to Monroe sensa-trac shocks. Much better than stock OE.

You are good to go with your Taco. Indeed....no need to fret over it. Go enjoy !!!
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:48 PM   #61
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Kayak you have spent way more time and money on getting a tow vehicle that is more than adequate for towing the trailer you have and especially for the type of (very shot trip) towing you plan to do with it!

I know your not towing with much of anything in your trailer which may account for why its a bit heavier on the tongue - if you start to stow some things in the rear section of the trailer behind the axle that will lighten up the tongue a bit. But to be honest for how much towing you are doing the slight down on the tongue you have is not going to hurt a thing!
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:57 PM   #62
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And see, there you go Carol......now that Kayak has this great new tow vehicle, that's all the more excuse to venture out further from home ! Maybe run down to the Blue Ridge Parkway this fall....or way up into Maine this summer....the roads are endless.

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Kayak you have spent way more time and money on getting a tow vehicle that is more than adequate for towing the trailer you have and especially for the type of (very shot trip) towing you plan to do with it!

I know your not towing with much of anything in your trailer which may account for why its a bit heavier on the tongue - if you start to stow some things in the rear section of the trailer behind the axle that will lighten up the tongue a bit. But to be honest for how much towing you are doing the slight down on the tongue you have is not going to hurt a thing!
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From a handling safety perspective I prefer the Tachoma to a full size pick up. The center of gravity is lower the width of the stance is the same on both.
Andrew Thompson is smart and well-intentioned, but be careful how blindly you accept his statements. If you think this means the Tacoma and a full-size such as the Toyota Tundra have the same track, you would be mistaken : the Tundra's track is over 4" wider than the Tacoma's. He may be referring to the distance between the leaf spring mounts on the axle, which is irrelevant to stability by itself.

Regardless of this bit of sloppy fact handling, I personally have no problem accepting that the Tacoma is a very capable tug for Kayak's trailer.
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Old 05-28-2013, 10:03 PM   #64
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i'd love to see anyone who wants to come to the nh coast or southern maine. it is beautiful here. and i have a big drive with outside elec if anyone wants a cheap place to sleep.

carol-i've been listening to everything you have said for a few days and the drl thing might have something to do with the flashing.

i was surprised that the back of the truck goes down 4 inches when i hitch up. its true these 17' casitas have heavy tongues i guess. BUT the front only went up 1 inch when hitched.

all i know is they have stopped flashing me and it feels better towing than not. and i absolutely love spending time at the beach like i used to. i really missed that...having the camper at shops for weeks...
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Old 05-28-2013, 10:16 PM   #65
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Just FYI BFG Rugged Trails are a basic all season/mild all terrain tire. Not a tire designed mainly for off-road. By the way most off-road tires are designed for off-road use with compromise for on road travel varying depending on how agressive an off-road tire you are looking at. Its the person who chooses to put one on for looks versus use. That being said my dad has towed, plowed snow and driven for years all year on BFG Rugged Trails, Long trails and just BFG all seasons without a problem on 1970s Scouts. Also if someone's trailer lowers the rear end enough to actually cause the front end to pick up. Not only does this affect the headlight aim it can also affect handling depending on how much it lightens the front end. You are loosing contact pressure on your front tires contact patch (the area of tread touching the roadway) This can make for a lightened feel on the steering and easier to loose control especially in rain. Granted this might have to be more then 300 lbs of tongue weight. I'm just mentioning it fyi. Also on the weight distributing hitch. There are varying capacity ones so if someone has less strength they could buy the one that meets there towing requirements or even the next one up thus they should be lighter then one with too high a capacity. My dad and I have a 10,000 lb+ WD hitch because we have a car trailer that gets towed around and that dang hitch is freaking heavy. Even the bars weren't very lightweight. Also in some states it is illegal to drive around with a hitch in the receiver (some call it a stinger). The other thing is make sure your trailer ball and hitch are at the level height. I've seen so many trailers going down the road where they were obviously not match and the trailer typically is tilted up or down. Hth and hopefully I didn't make any mistakes in my information.

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carol-i've been listening to everything you have said for a few days and the drl thing might have something to do with the flashing. .
I hope for your sake thats all it was. Its not uncommon for someone who has never had a vehicle with DRL before to get tricked into thinking their headlights are already on when they first start driving it as some of your dash items will have lights on them even though your headlights are not on. Try turning your head lights off at night to see the difference. You should in a short time be able to tell by just looking at the dash if your headlights are on fully or not by what is or isnt lite up or how dim it is.
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Old 05-28-2013, 10:47 PM   #67
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yeah-there are many bells and whistles in this truck...3 buttons i'll probably never use unless i do decide to go up mt washington without the road like the sales man said...

but i like the truck..i really do. its smaller than the full size truck and easier to drive in town but has what i need. it will take me awhile to get everything straight. i still dont use everything in the camper...

i'm starting to get some "looks" during the day...i guess it isnt a typical grandma's truck...
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Also in some states it is illegal to drive around with a hitch in the receiver (some call it a stinger).

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Rich do you have link to what states it is illegal and what the law actually reads? A while ago someone told me this and I tried at the time to find such a law in any state/province and couldn't find one using google - lots of folks on forums suggesting there is one but nothing to support it. I did find though that it is illegal to block a license plate with a hitch ball ( or anything else for that matter) in most places though. Still curious though if there is actually a law in some state.
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Rich do you have link to what states it is illegal and what the law actually reads? A while ago someone told me this and I tried at the time to find such a law in any state/province and couldn't find one using google - lots of folks on forums suggesting there is one but nothing to support it. I did find though that it is illegal to block a license plate with a hitch ball ( or anything else for that matter) in most places though. Still curious though if there is actually a law in some state.
I will double check that. Come to think of it I've heard it word of mouth myself. So I might have been better to say it MAY be illegal. Lol but I will look into it. I'm a bit of a whiz at finding the odd ball regulation or part or etc.. via the internet. I just seemed to pull results out of thin air at work on certain parts. Something about being able to word it right or pull multiple results together to string a path to the actual result that I was looking for.

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Andrew Thompson is smart and well-intentioned, but be careful how blindly you accept his statements. If you think this means the Tacoma and a full-size such as the Toyota Tundra have the same track, you would be mistaken : the Tundra's track is over 4" wider than the Tacoma's. He may be referring to the distance between the leaf spring mounts on the axle, which is irrelevant to stability by itself.

Regardless of this bit of sloppy fact handling, I personally have no problem accepting that the Tacoma is a very capable tug for Kayak's trailer.
And to be more specific Brian, we would really need to know where the center of gravity is on both vehicles, and there are other factors involved as well. Honestly, it would be almost impossible to guess all of this, it really would take doing side by side testing, both solo and hitched.
And if we really want to confuse the issue some more, there are aftermarket sway bars ( hellwig ) available for all these trucks which noticibly help the handling. Going to a lower profile wider tire would help too.
All of which goes beyond the needs and desires of the original poster I would suspect ! I do believe kayak is happy with the setup as it is. Job done.
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