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Old 10-16-2013, 09:30 AM   #29
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OK, I have decided. I am going to fix it.
If you have the time, this will be a fun project, with great reward at the end. I do look forward to watching your progress.
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:50 AM   #30
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What jolly fun! NOT!! Too bad you can't find a good upper and bad lower for your bad upper and good lower. Maybe you will? Soon you'll have them all, eh?

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I actually really enjoy fibreglass work. The plan is to support it as best I can, then grind the cracks to a paper thin wedge from the crack point to about 2" on either side, making about a 4" wide seam. Then, add glass till it is about as thick as it was previously. I think I will grind gel coat off the sides of the trolly roof, and make them twice as thick for strength.

I am amazed that the Ensolite has not ripped anywhere. Therefore, I am going to try to save it. I will do all my grinding from the outside. Some heat should help re-shape it back to the original.
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A few inside shots

With the roof up, it looks much better. A few more bleach treatments, and I will be done with the mold.
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What are your plans to get it to hold is final shape? I imagine the fiberglass is weakened quite a bit where it folded.
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Old 10-16-2013, 11:22 AM   #33
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That is the point of grinding the seams. Where it is folded, it cracked. I will grind out all the cracks, to paper thin, where the crack was. Then getting thicker till, after about 2", it is full thickness. Then in that gap, lay down more glass. Ideally, the grinding would be from both the inside, and the outside of the shell. But, I think I will try to save the Ensolite by grinding only on the outside. Under the upper kitchen cupboard, the glass was folded sharply. I will have to do the described repair, first on the outside, then on the inside where the back splash meets the upper cabinet.

After this, I will give thought to grinding off all the gel coat on the roof and adding a couple of layers of mat, (cloth?) to hold the shape. As you can see in the inside shots, the roof, above the closet is separating from the roof. I guess I will have to weigh it down, maybe with a cinder block. I plan to try to heat the glass to about 120°C to help with the reshaping.

It is getting it back to the proper shape that I will have the most trouble with. I am thinking 6 or 8 jacks, and a bunch of wood forms on the inside, screwed through the glass, where the Ensolite seams are. The forms will be made using the other 1300's I have as a pattern. Of course all the forms come off when the glassing is done.

I may consider kitchen supports, like Bolers have.
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I'm looking forward to seeing your progress! Be sure to keep taking those photos!
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:37 AM   #35
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But, when the guy offers me a Trillium for $100, I guess I have a week spot.

Notice that it has an intact manufacture date sticker.
13-120811 March 1973

I have named it Humpty Dumpty.

My big problem is that I intended to just use this trailer as a source of parts. Now I think I can save it, (hero complex, got it bad). The previous owner tells me that the roof collapsed five years ago, and there were several rotten old sleeping bags piled on the floor all that time. The deeper I dug, the wetter they were. I suspect that the plywood under the floor is likely rotten. If so, that seals the fate of this trailer as a part trailer.

If it is a parts trailer, I will carefully document the dissection.

On the way back, I ran into a member of this site. He recognised my name, and had seen the ad for the trailer.

Date Listed 20-Sep-13
Price $300.00
Address Stony Plain, AB T7Z 1H6, Canada
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For Sale By Owner
Year 1969
Colour White

For Sale: late sixties/early seventies Trillium (roof caved in). Stove, heater and fridge work great. Have young family and no time to fix. Sitting at Lake Isle and waiting to be picked up by a loving owner with time and love to fix. Please pick me up and enjoy what I have to offer
I wish I could have that Trillium with 100bucks. And if I have it, here is what I would do:...Cutting off the whole roof like an open box. Reinforce the wall with posts (fiberglass U shape or even wood). Buy an used fiberglass, full size pickup truck top then from here, modify with aluminum brackets to attach new roof, glue, bond, body work, sanding.....,Hopefully at the end I would have a...one kind of customized Trillium with higher rooftop + windows and last....for a long time. Just my thought...
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A few more bleach treatments, and I will be done with the mold.
Liquid TSP helps, followed by Concrobium at the end. Both available at Home Depot.

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It is getting it back to the proper shape that I will have the most trouble with.

I may consider kitchen supports, like Bolers have.
If I recall, you are not far from Outback. Does Joe have a 13' mold? If so you might be able to get him to lay out sections or an entire roof for you to onlay over the original. Much like the roof section for A/C. If not you might be able to use one of your other trailers by having the roof wrapped like a boat for storage and lay out your fiberglass sections from that.

I'm very interested in seeing what you come up with for the kitchen supports.
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I had not thought of giving Joe a call. He does owe me a solid.
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Any concerns of mold behind the ensolite?
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If I recall, you are not far from Outback. Does Joe have a 13' mold? If so you might be able to get him to lay out sections or an entire roof for you to onlay over the original.
What a great idea Roy... wonder though if it might even be cheaper at the end of the day (labour wise) just to buy a new top half from him assuming the two pieces will fit.
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Where the Ensolite is still glued, no concerns about mold. Where it has pulled away from the fibreglass, I will expose it and spray with bleach. I think I will be opening up the Ensolite anyway, so I can get at the inside of the cracks. That way I can glass both sides of the crack.

I just got a price for the top half of the fibreglass from Out Back. About $2500. Not bad, I will have to think about it. Since Joe is using an older 1300 mould. I have to think a top from him should fit the bottom of my 1300. I guess I should ask about the upper kitchen cupboard and back splash as well. At least I wont have to pay for shipping. I am still leaning towards doing the work myself.

The next step is to open up the Ensolite and see what is there.
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Given the amount of FG work required to put a new top on I'd be tempted to rebuild what is there, at least a fair bit of it is intact and aligned. $2500 can go a far ways in the rebuild if not used for the top.
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Given the amount of FG work required to put a new top on I'd be tempted to rebuild what is there, at least a fair bit of it is intact and aligned. $2500 can go a far ways in the rebuild if not used for the top.
I dont see how going with an all new top half shell would involve more fiberglass work than fixing the old one? Would think that going the new top half route would be a whole lot less fiberglass work. Yes the windows and vents etc would all needed to switched over to the new top shell but I am assuming that they are going to be all pulled and reset either way. Am I wrong? What am I missing regarding the fiberglass work? May be a mute point regardless as the OP does like doing fiberglass work
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