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Old 01-21-2016, 09:41 PM   #29
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Wow, Cindy! I can hardly believe my eyes: you bought a BIG trailer! Welcome to the club: we're in a 21 ft. Escape now, and it's an adjustment. Beautiful, but no longer cute... Nor cozy... Yet its versatility is a relief. Looking forward to hearing more about your Silver Cloud!
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Old 01-21-2016, 09:52 PM   #30
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Hi John,

I really appreciate your post. Laura and I just bought a new to us '05 Casita 17' Freedom Deluxe in November. As soon to be empty nesters, we hope to use it until my retirement in 9.5 years. I wonder if we will go with a larger camper when I retire. I love the Oliver 23.5, the Bigfoot 21, and I dig the floorplan of the Escape 21'. Plus, my brother-in-law is a huge Airstream fan. He just restored an Avion 31'. Also, I only live 2.5 hours from the Oliver plant. Plenty of time to think about the future. In the meantime, we love our Casita.

Thanks for your post and reflections!

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Old 01-22-2016, 08:54 AM   #31
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I hear ya Dean.... since I'm only 30 MIN from OLIVER!! I drove to Backus to pick up my 13' Scamp with Oliver 30 min away. Well it was 1200 miles or $30,000 more dollars...but a larger camper of course- THAT I could not pull without another "TOW"....minimum of yet ANOTHER $30K.... So yeah, for $60,000 I guess I'd drive to Backus again....HA

With that said, JOHN COLE, I've enjoyed this thread. Dont think in over 7 yr I've been on FGRV forums/groups, I've seen a direct comparison and discussion between FG's and AirStreams. So it has been interesting. Thanks for bringing it up.

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Hi John,

I really appreciate your post. Laura and I just bought a new to us '05 Casita 17' Freedom Deluxe in November. As soon to be empty nesters, we hope to use it until my retirement in 9.5 years. I wonder if we will go with a larger camper when I retire. I love the Oliver 23.5, the Bigfoot 21, and I dig the floorplan of the Escape 21'. Plus, my brother-in-law is a huge Airstream fan. He just restored an Avion 31'. Also, I only live 2.5 hours from the Oliver plant. Plenty of time to think about the future. In the meantime, we love our Casita.

Thanks for your post and reflections!

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Old 01-22-2016, 09:31 AM   #32
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Loved that Norm! I agree with you and I love your love for each other. My love for my hubby is hard since he isn't a camper, but in the end we travel w/o the trailer together and he lets me camp with the kids w/o him (maybe I snore and that gives him time away from mine.....hmmmmm) I love the quiet, the disconnect to the PC I see all week long (and type on to talk with all of you!) I think camping should be about the get away, close or far I'm being picky about a camper but that is because I don't want to get it wrong a 2nd time lol .....I'm hoping that in about 8 years my hubby will join me w/o the kids (off to college) and the FB trailer will be still running strong and in great shape
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Old 01-22-2016, 10:30 AM   #33
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My wife and I are relatively new to the "sport" of towing a TT, having been out six times, total. The last time we towed the TT about 4,000 miles. In other words, not a lot of experience. At this point the Casita is feeling very confining, although my wife seems to be OK with it. I am looking for alternatives.

We looked at AS before we went with the Casita. Oliver was in the early stages of production, and I did not know about it. Big foot and Escape are possibilities, but prefer something with more dealerships, and made in the USA.

We move around a lot when we travel and spend at most 4 or five days in on spot. we prefer mountain travel. In other words, the aerodynamics of the Casita and AS is very appealing. I really like the floor plan of the AS 22fb.

We have run into hail on two of those six trips. One time we had a brand new AS triple axle pull in next to us, for one night, and was gone early the next morning. He said he was going home and trying to outrun a hail storm, which turned out to have nickle + size hail. It did nothing to our Casita.

If you don't mind my asking, what will you be towing it with and will you be doing any mountain traveling?

What are your thoughts regarding hail?

I realize this is a FB forum, but I hope you will post here and let us know how you are doing from time to time.
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Hey,

Hi Darral! I am excited to be at the front end of our RV travels with our new to us Casita. A Scamp 13' and 16' were also on our lists. We hope to use the Casita for years, but I reflect about what retirement might bring (more of our Casita or larger rig like an Oliver, Big Foot, or Escape or an Airstream or a restored Avion, etc.). One of these days, Laura and I will take a day to tour the Oliver plant for the fun of it. Laura LOVES the interiors of the Olivers. I know some find them a little "sterile", but Laura is a fan.

Crystal, looking forward to hearing about the egg you land on!

Henry, you are ahead of us in terms of the sport to towing. I appreciate your comment about your Casita and hail. Yikes, something to think about.

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Old 01-22-2016, 05:25 PM   #35
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Since I reluctantly sold our 2015 Oliver Elite II last fall, I have regretted it everyday since it left the driveway... I got the blessing to purchase a new 2016 Airstream Sport Bambi 22FB(frontbed) this past week but only after she saw that the bathroom/shower area was twice the size of the Oliver with having a seating/eating area for four instead of two.
John, I can empathize with your dilemma. Probably more than just about any other member here... the first fiberglass trailer I had was a '76 Scamp 13 in 1980. Since then I've had over a dozen of them (usually serially) including a Bigfoot 17 and Bigfoot 25 (my last trailer... just sold the 25 last summer after 9 years with it.) From 1987 through 2007, I had a half-dozen Airstreams from the original '61 Bambi 16' through the '94 tri-axle 34' with two doors. I also had a 325 motorhome and a B-190 moho. My current RV is a 32' Born Free moho on a Kodiak chassis; my second Born Free moho.

Each time I bought intending to keep it "forever" and either someone came along and made me an offer I couldn't refuse, or I found another that was just a little closer to what I thought I wanted.

My assessment over all those years? It's all good. I've had a TON of fun in every one of those trailers and mohos. I've met amazing people, gone wonderful places and done amazing things... all in the comfort of my own "home."

The 32' moho I have now probably fits our lifestyle and traveling needs better than any other RV we've ever owned. It's still not 'perfect' but it's close enough that I don't feel the need to look at anything else. We had the Bigfoot 25 for nine years, and this particular motorhome with this particular layout is the only coach I'd have traded it for. Since there were only 16 of these coaches built in total, I was pretty lucky to find one at all, much less one I could actually afford.

The bottom line is that you'll make whatever you have work. As long as "Momma" is happy, EVERYONE is happy and that's all that counts.


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John, we wish you well. Please join the AirForum. Same kind folks over there as here.
And I second Donna's advice. Great folks, and lots of friends there still. I still regularly attend one of the annual AirForums rallies; lots of old friends still go... and they tolerate having me and my SOB ("Some Other Brand") in the campground with them.

Good luck with your new coach!
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Roger,

I spent some time about a year ago researching B+ Motorhomes. Born Frees are amazing rigs. Very nice!!!

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I spent some time about a year ago researching B+ Motorhomes. Born Frees are amazing rigs. Very nice!!!

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Thanks Dean. Yes, they're pretty darn nice. Mine is actually a super-C on the Kodiak chassis, but what they all have in common is a three-bar roll cage in the coach itself. I only live a couple of hundred miles from the factory, and I don't think its possible to get better service than what's offered at the factory. It was a really good decision for us... on a beautiful coach.
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Old 01-23-2016, 09:55 AM   #38
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Sadly, I'll soon be posting my Oliver Legacy Elite II for sale. I simply need a larger trailer for full time living at my jobsites. Last week I purchased an Arctic Fox 24J and will take delivery next week. Built in Oregon, they have an excellent quality reputation as well as built for cold weather service.

For those that remember, I did a video on my Oliver. If you know of someone who wants one, and doesn't want to wait for a new build (or the new price), have them PM me.

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Hi Roger,

My bad. You mentioned the Kodiak chassis in a previous post. I have watched You Tube videos from Born Free about it. WOW, Super-C Nice!!!

Take care,

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Hi Ron,

I watched your video months ago. Great job. I am sure you will have no problem selling it. Wishing you the best in your new rig.

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My bad. You mentioned the Kodiak chassis in a previous post. I have watched You Tube videos from Born Free about it. WOW, Super-C Nice!!!

Take care,

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Thanks! Yes, until this year, the 32RQ was both the largest and subsequently, most expensive coach they'd ever built. Now they make a 33' on the Ford F550 chassis that has slides and has a substantially higher sticker price than what mine was in '06.

Given the prices of the new ones, I'm even more pleased with mine.
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I'm interested in the 'more space when I retire' theme. One thing we have not kept track of in our 15 years is the amount of time, outside of sleeping we spent in our RV over the last 15 years.

On our trip to NL I think I'll monitor RV usage.

As a rough guess I would say the following:

1. 8-9 hours, sleeping (9 PM to 6 Am),
2. 2-3 hours, breakfast and morning organization (6AM to 9 AM)
3. 3-6 hours, daily exploring
4. 1 hour shopping
5. 1 hour life maintenance (laundry, trailer maintenance, ...)
6. 2 hours reading/writing/computer
7. 1-2 hour preparing and eating supper

Outside of sleeping a small percentage of the time is spent in the trailer.

I also find it interesting that even our RV fulltimer friends even in their rigs that could fit 3 or 4 Scamp 16s in their huge volumes, tend to do their friend entertaining outside or better yet entertaining each other by exploring new place together. Traveling in a trailer is different than one's previous life, at least for us.

Even when we're traveled for 11 months we did not consider the RV a home style living space. It was a space to support a different lifestyle.
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