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Old 01-23-2015, 07:06 AM   #29
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You don't have to be a "citizen" to get taxed in the US of A, we are an equal opportunity taxing entity, we get our money any place we can....LOL
Yes, we have a famous example in the Mayor of London. Born in the US to British parents studying in the US, he has both US and British citizenship. The US tax authorities are trying to get capital tax payments from him, although he hasn't lived there since his birth in 1964!

But maybe it is just revenge since the city of London has a long-standing dispute with the US Embassy. When 'road charging' (ie, a daily toll for vehicle use in the city centre) was introduced, the US Embassy declared that they considered it a form of local taxation from which they considered themselves exempt. The penalty charges run up by the embassy for non-payment for embassy vehicles stands at $8 million and includes a fine for the US President's limo last year.

I had been wondering if the 180-day limit was the point at which 'foreigners' would become liable for US taxes.

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Old 01-23-2015, 07:20 AM   #30
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Our tax disputes with England go back much further than that. I'm thinking about the Boston Tea Party as the most famous, but that wasn't the first. It just happened to be the straw that broke the camel's back.


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Old 01-23-2015, 07:29 AM   #31
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Originally Posted by Andrew Gibbens View Post

I had been wondering if the 180-day limit was the point at which 'foreigners' would become liable for US taxes.
Actually, there is NO limit in terms of days for exemption from US tax liability.

Any money 'earned' (or won for that matter) is taxable technically although personal exemptions reduce the tax to nil, it still has to be accounted for.
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Hmmmm... Actually he lived here until he was five and he and his wife owned a 1.8 million dollar house that they sold for a huge profit, creating a capital gains tax as a U.S. citizen. As he doesn't want to relinquish his U.S. citizenship, he got the opportunity to pay his tax bill.... Here's the rest of that story:
London Mayor Pays 'Absolutely Outrageous' US Tax Bill

To quote someone else: "Perhaps ironically, the U.K. was once forced to spin off an important North American subsidiary partially over tax issues"

And yes, the London city centre road tax is a PITA, especially if you have a rental car and get a surprise bill after you return home. But it's their city, their rules and it's still a great place to visit.
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Maintaining "Dual Citizenship" is a two edged sword and, as clipped from:
Dual Nationality

"However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there. Most U.S. nationals, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. nationality. Most countries permit a person to renounce or otherwise lose nationality."

While Marie Antoinette DID NOT say "Let them eat cake", if one wants to have their cake and eat it too, they must be prepared to pay for the privilege.
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I personally think this is being blown all out of proportion. The rules haven't changed; it's just the "big brother is watching and tracking you technology" has gotten more intrusive.
You are quite right, the laws have been in place for a long time. The tools to track and effectively enforce them has not, until now.

By exceeding the 120 day limit opens Canadians to US income tax IN ADDITION to all tax paid as Canadians. I know snowbirders that have been caught in this, and the important thing is that tax is additive unless US Government IRS form 8440 is used religiously when entering the US.


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