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Old 01-27-2007, 03:24 PM   #15
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I followed the dealer link Gina provided...the dealer in our area is in Tualatin:
And................at X-RV at the corner of NE 137th and 4th Plain Blvd in Vancouver are 2 Little Joes. Also a fiberglass teardrop (not molded) and a couple of horse trailers. Not a huge operation yet. Phone 888.xrv.torv or 360.719.4214. Even a link: http://www.goxrv.com/

I didn't stop to visit. Little Joes are tiny. Tiny, I say, tiny. I like that they have two battery boxes on the tongue, though.
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Old 01-27-2007, 05:36 PM   #16
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Gina, mega kudoes to you for the updated info on the Little Joe! Curious minds have been wondering for awhile, and now we know -- the Lite House form has been revived, apparently not as destroyed as was reported! I can see a couple differences, such as a smaller front window, wood cabinetry of course, and he's traded a couple roof supports toward the sides of the roof instead of the original center support. As many will comment, this IS a tiny trailer. But to any who denegrate her size, I must stick up for the lil tupperware box on wheels. Her size is exactly the benefit. Towing our Lite House is the most stress-free towing I've ever done...she zips through city traffic with ease & precision, and cuts a corner like a frisky puppy. On narrow country lanes and mountain roads where some full size rigs will fuss and whine in dread fear, our little puny box says, "Yeah, no prob, let's go!!" The bed size is fabulous, and the storeage space is quite adequate. Remember, it's designed for TWO. And Don is right, we didn't pay $9K, but on the other hand, our little girl is 12 yrs old. For anybody with minimal towing capacity, like us with our CRV, it may be worth it. All I can tell ya, our first reaction when we saw her was she's too small but we have no choice...it's about all we can tow. But once we fixed it up, finished the makeover and spent some time with it, it's as if it magically gets bigger when you are actually in it. And in the day of $3-4 gas, we'll still be camping dry and having a blast seeing new places! Now, don't get me wrong, we still look at bigger rigs & maybe some day we'll go bigger...but we love our little Lite House and she loves the road!! So I'd encourage people to be open to this revived egg box. Thanks again, Gina, for the info. And by the way, that iCamp is a cutey, too!

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Old 01-27-2007, 06:42 PM   #17
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As promised, here are some pictures of the Little Joe that the brochure and web does not provide.

Being that it is very small, there really isn't much more to add from the web, except detail.

It has no ensolite or rat fur, it is painted glass on the interior, similar to Fiberstream. There IS a center roof support, and they hid it nicely by carpeting it and making nice wood ends that box it in on the inside. It is obvious it is a roof support, but they have blended it well for the interior design.

Here is a shot lengthwise. You can get and idea of the length, and more importantly, the nice cabinetry that he has done.
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Old 01-27-2007, 06:50 PM   #18
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Here is a close up of the cabinetry detail.


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All the trim items have some sort of whimsical decoration on them. Tho the trailer is tiny, it is elegantly done for what it has.

The model I looked at was "fully dressed" with heater, 3 way fridge, awning and air.

Here is the fridge set up.
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Fridge is a Dometic, and the stove is a Suburban, with the Wave 3 heater above. I really didn't like the way the heater was intalled. For as nicely done as the rest of the trailer is, it appeared to be a sloppy afterthought.
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The sink is small, in proportion with the rest of the trailer, but once again, nicely done.


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And for Dan C., The curb side.


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The floor in it seemed out of place, and yes, it's cold. For all the nice wood and simplicity of the thing, this bright shiny diamond plate kinda stuck out like a sore thumb.
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OK, now for the iCamp.

I liked it so much that I have put in a tenative order for one. I say tenative because I am doing a sit back and thinking of all the pros and cons and what they are worth to me.

It is NOT molded glass, it is panels like the T@B and many may compare it to the T@B and what T@B should have done. The panels are foam molded with a glass exterior and aluminum framing. Stick built, sorta.

I don't know what to say about this guy other than it is well thought out, extremely high quality, and it has just about everything in it one could want or need.

But it is small at 14 ft. It's almost an 11 foot coach with a full bath and ample kitchen. The storage is built in the furniture. Here is an example, a small dresser, short closet and nick knack shelf. (Those shelves are clear glass.)
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:32 PM   #21
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The front end of the trailer is all dinette/bed. The bed looks to be bigger than a queen, but I am so used to a double bed that anything bigger is a king size to me

The back seat is wide enough that it would make a comfortable single, or you could sleep two front to back on the side cushions as singles.

This arrangement is my personal hesitation. It effectively eliminates any "living area" and makes it almost impossible to have a full time bed and still have any moving space.

It could be done, looking at how the benches are installed, the one by the fridge could easily be removed and you would have an L gaucho, much like a BF 17.

The table is also bulky and even I had a hard time slipping in behind it. It is a clever drop design, but it has a steel frame and can go outside. I would personally just take it out to give more living space.

OK, the bathroom.. how CUTE and functional.

It's a small wet bath, but they have also thought out storage and the med cab and bulk storage are "just right" in size. The sink is small. The 08 models come with a fixed toilet and a small black tank. Looked like about 10 gals to me. There is a recessed towl holder and all kinds of small cubby spaces for personal articles.

The bathroom is the strongest selling point to me. The tanks are small enough for me to handle and tug with the Jeep.

The concept of using the corner instead of the full width appeals to me. Seams to give more room than I have seen in 13 ft Scamps and Casitas with a front bath. It's just enough to get the job done.
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Atwood 2 burner stove with cover. The fridge is behind, on the side and is a 3 way Dometic.

Under the stove is a huge cupboard, with 4 deep shelves, and under the sink there are 3 smaller ones.

I wish they would have put the fridge under the stove, as the fridge takes up a lot of floor space on it's own. But on top, you could put a microwave, TV, small child.. what have you. It's a large counter space.

The fit and finish on this trailer are highly detailed and are just about airstream quality. The drawers have hig tech mechanisms and slide like butter, all doors fit snugly and latch smoothly and have a hefty feel to them.

Outside, there are 4 stablizers and all the usual stuff you would expect for infrastructure. There is a sliding step as well as lighting.

The interior lighting is all halogen puck lights. Subarban furnace, 6 gal hot water heater and the usual fresh and grey holding arrangements.

The floors is a vinyl wood pattern, with a diamond plate step in.

With all the storage, including space under the benches, one would not need to carry tubs, you could pretty much pull over and step in without any interior rearranging. I am not sure I have enough stuff to fill all the storage areas.

At 14ft, I could still store it at home too.
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Old 01-27-2007, 08:42 PM   #23
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I did not make thier website, and I bet that lil ole me has no influence on what they put on it or how.
I just meant to suggest passing on a suggestion for the Weis Craft people... sorry if there was some misunderstanding!

I think customers do have an influence on what is posted on web sites. If we don't ask, they are just guessing at what we might want.
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Thanks for the photos and info, Gina!
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Old 01-27-2007, 11:58 PM   #25
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Gina,
Sorry you missed the Oregon Bigfoot . Would the iCamp be that much of an improvement over your Burro?
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hummm the iCamp is interesting. I too like having a permanent table. It's not so bad when the weather is good, but when forced to be inside it's nice to have a place to sit and eat/read, etc.

The thing I don't like about the iCamp is the galley. Looks like an afterthought. Getting counter space in a small trailer is tricky at best, but this galley doesn't even look like there's room for a counter extension? Or a board of some sort over the silverware drawer...if there is even one. That would making fixing meals pretty tough. I suppose one could carry stuff to the table (pots etc), but what do you do when the bed is made up???

I like the corner bath...reminds me of the BigFoot "G" model. If that's one of the features you really like Gina....you should probably be looking for a 17.5 "G" model BigFoot. That would give you a large permanent bed and front eating area. The downside is the size and weight...you know that tho.

Whatever you decide, I know it will be the best decision for YOU.
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Old 01-28-2007, 12:38 PM   #27
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Donna, no, the gallery has very little counter space. The cabinet the fridge is on is wide open for that tho. And yes, the comparison to the BF 17 is one I made right away.

Kurt, after I slept on it, I have decided NOT to get it. In reality, you hit the nail on the head, which is why I wanted to sit back and think. It is not that much more advantagious than the Burro.

What I would be trading off in ammenities and convinience, I lose in space. I had to comapare what it would be like to "live" in it for long periods of time, and fussing with the bed is not a good trade off for me.

Advantages of the iCamp:

Bath
New appliances
better storage
it's home storable
easy to manage and tow
well made

The disadvantages

Payments
loss of living space
expensive for it's size
Not molded

As mentioned, the space trade offs are the bigest thing. I am not fond of another bill at the end of the month either, tho it wouldn't be a huge one.
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Camper Outlet <blockquote>Little Joe (at Camper Outlet) - this one has [b]actual dimensions! </blockquote>
The "Finnegan's Familyvan" and "Affordable Truck & RV" sites have no evidence of this trailer.
I'll bet the axle manufacturers cringe when people call rubber-sprung torsion axle systems "rubber band" suspension! But thanks for the info.
I can't even find the Little Joe on the Camper Outlet site, much less dimensions. How did you find it?
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