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01-04-2013, 10:46 PM
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#21
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Senior Member
Name: Jared
Trailer: 1984 19' scamp
Kansas
Posts: 1,610
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
Hush yer festerin' gob, you. (but you might just be right)
So then, you are saying you have a fifth wheel travel trailer.....nice.
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Take off, hoser! Actually, I was darn close (60ish miles) to living in the 51st state. The grocery cops let us come and go as we pleased, though.
Fine, fine, fifth wheel travel trailer. I'll just shorten it to fifth wheel.
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01-04-2013, 10:48 PM
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#22
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Moderator
Trailer: 2009 19 ft Escape / 2009 Honda Pilot
Posts: 6,230
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn Baglo
For instance, when Jim is cross-country skiing, he is a recreational vehicle. Kitchen and bedroom in the knapsack on his back.
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I am a little red engine. "I think I can, I think I can, I think I can".
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
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01-04-2013, 11:05 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2007 Casita
Posts: 3,428
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
Put another way, what is there about the word "vehicle" that pertains only to vehicles with engines?
A vehicle is any means of carrying something or someone. It is not a definition particular to just vehicles that have engines.
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I believe the definition says transporting something or someone...... A travel trailer can't "transport" without a vehicle to do so..... Well I guess it could if there was a really steep down grade.
My travel trailer carry's stuff, but it isn't gonna transport anything until I tow it with my vehicle...........
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01-05-2013, 07:25 AM
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#24
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 4500
Posts: 2,050
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Actually I have heard the term "Vehicle" used to describe ideas and concepts (usually in economics) also.
"I got it, I have a fifth wheel! *phew* All good again."
Not so fast, well okay I guess yours is now a 5th wheel, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna own a "goose neck" travel trailer.
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01-05-2013, 09:05 AM
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Administrator
Trailer: Casita 1999 17 ft Liberty Deluxe
Posts: 10,948
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Recreational Vehicle is the genus.
Travel Trailer and Motorhome are the species.
Usage and understanding vary (some CGs allow 2 vehicles per site - where they mean the car or moho and a towable; sometimes they don't count the trailer as a vehicle and allow a second car, as long as all three "vehicles" fit onto the driveway).
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01-05-2013, 09:25 AM
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#26
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Senior Member
Name: deryk
Trailer: 2012 Parkliner 2010 V6 Nissan Frontier 4x4
New Jersey
Posts: 2,085
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I agree, coming from the boating world, fiberglass rules. I looked at a Forest River Rpod Rp-171. I figured oh they sell them locally, no need to worry about leakage because they said aluminum walls, well if you check the link picture near the bottom, the roof is made of 1x2's.... will take a solid fiberglass trailer anyday lol R-POD . . . . from scratch - 'streamin'
deryk
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01-05-2013, 10:50 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2007 Casita
Posts: 3,428
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Hammel
Actually I have heard the term "Vehicle" used to describe ideas and concepts (usually in economics) also.
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Yup...
Words and actions are a vehicle to convey, thoughts, emotions etc........ A paint brush is said to be a vehicle to take paint to canvas.
But I believe a trailer is a trailer,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mary F
Recreational Vehicle is the genus.
Travel Trailer and Motorhome are the species.
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That's a great way to look at it!
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01-05-2013, 11:25 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2001 13 ft Scamp / 1993 Jeep Cherokee
Posts: 1,294
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But then how about those '5th wheels'. Since you only have 2 on the trailer attaching to the tug adds it's 4 wheels making it a "6 wheeler".
Someone once told me it's because the trailer has 4 wheels and it's the attachment point that adds the 5th wheel. Hummmm , that attachment point doesn't look like a wheel to me.
So under that premise you folks with single axles are 2 wheeled trailers until you are attached to the tug at which time you'd become a "3 wheeler" .
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01-05-2013, 11:56 AM
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#29
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 5,112
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For us UHaul owners, this settles it.
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01-05-2013, 12:15 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 4500
Posts: 2,050
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joy A
But then how about those '5th wheels'. Since you only have 2 on the trailer attaching to the tug adds it's 4 wheels making it a "6 wheeler".
Someone once told me it's because the trailer has 4 wheels and it's the attachment point that adds the 5th wheel. Hummmm , that attachment point doesn't look like a wheel to me.
So under that premise you folks with single axles are 2 wheeled trailers until you are attached to the tug at which time you'd become a "3 wheeler" .
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Oh god, I think I'm having an identity crises!
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01-05-2013, 12:24 PM
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#31
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Moderator
Trailer: 2009 19 ft Escape / 2009 Honda Pilot
Posts: 6,230
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Hammel
Oh god, I think I'm having an identity crises!
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Maybe you and Jared (and all the other 5th wheel owners) need a site of your own where you can dwell in your mistaken identity.
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
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01-05-2013, 12:36 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium 4500
Posts: 2,050
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Scamp 19' is not a 5th wheel, it is also not a goose neck, or a pull trailer!
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01-05-2013, 12:40 PM
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#33
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Moderator
Trailer: 2009 19 ft Escape / 2009 Honda Pilot
Posts: 6,230
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Hammel
Scamp 19' is not a 5th wheel, it is also not a goose neck, or a pull trailer!
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Yeah, it is an RV, right?
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
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01-05-2013, 01:21 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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According to Wikipedia RV may also stand for Random Variable ... due to the number of different thoughts on what an RV is or is not here that definition certainly seems to fit
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01-05-2013, 01:36 PM
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#35
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Senior Member
Name: Cyndi
Trailer: 2010 Scamp 5th Wheel/2019 Toyota Tundra
Iowa
Posts: 1,105
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Maybe we are like two things they put together to get this other thing.
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01-05-2013, 01:45 PM
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#36
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: '98 BURRO 17WB
Delaware
Posts: 2,548
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Tom, is the embossing on that logbook the work of U-Haul? If so, would give historical support to "RV" as an inclusive rather than exclusive pigeonhole. As some of us have been forced to notice, RV as permanently embedded in our esteemed Forum name (FGRV) is quite acceptable and not confusing in the least to the self-propellers who wash up on our shores occasionally LOL.
jack
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01-05-2013, 02:07 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Name: Jared
Trailer: 1984 19' scamp
Kansas
Posts: 1,610
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Hammel
Scamp 19' is not a 5th wheel, it is also not a goose neck, or a pull trailer!
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Mine is, and one other!
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01-05-2013, 02:09 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 5,112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rabbit
Tom, is the embossing on that logbook the work of U-Haul? If so, would give historical support to "RV" as an inclusive rather than exclusive pigeonhole. As some of us have been forced to notice, RV as permanently embedded in our esteemed Forum name (FGRV) is quite acceptable and not confusing in the least to the self-propellers who wash up on our shores occasionally LOL.
jack
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Yep, that is the original log book from my UHaul CT. It contained the UHaul user's manual that I posted in the archives. Also my UHaul has an RecVee World blue decal on the side, if that counts for anything.
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01-05-2013, 02:47 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Trailer: 19 ft Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel Deluxe ('The White House')
Posts: 329
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jared J
I got it, I have a fifth wheel! *phew* All good again.
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Jared... not it isn't all good... our Scamp 19' rigs are NOT 5th wheels. They are CLOSER to a goose neck.
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01-05-2013, 03:02 PM
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#40
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Senior Member
Trailer: 19 ft Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel Deluxe ('The White House')
Posts: 329
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The California DMV (for whatever value THAT brings) includes, under the general category of Vehicles "trailer coach".
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