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Old 08-14-2014, 05:23 PM   #169
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Old 08-14-2014, 07:34 PM   #170
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You're right Vanessa there was a cool period that extended for a few decades, big news in the 70s. Many of the same people touting global warming touted a coming ice age.

The reality is that there has been no warming for 18 years and no one knows why. No matter what, hot or cold, we'll still be out there camping. We try to avoid the extremes though we did get snowed on in NL this spring.

Like you everyone's enjoying the cooler summer temperatures.
What people don't seem to realize, no matter what we stupid
humans think or try to make others think, God is in control of
the thermostat................LOL
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Old 08-14-2014, 09:43 PM   #171
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Yeah, but what I want to know is, who hid the remote???
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Old 08-14-2014, 09:45 PM   #172
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Funny...!

It's under the couch cushions silly.


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Old 08-14-2014, 10:07 PM   #173
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Funny...!

It's under the couch cushions silly.


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Old 08-15-2014, 12:47 PM   #174
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It's worth it...to us.

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I have never stayed in a hotel and heard loons calling to each other in the early morning.
I have never witnessed so many shooting stars from a hotel balcony.
I have never stared across the glow of HD 32 inch flat screen and saw my wife the same way she looks in campfire light.
Sid hit the nail on the head for me! Marilyn and I will be traveling to California's Avenue of the Giants from Knoxville, TN in late Aug to late Sept. About 5400 miles round trip. If we flew to San Francisco and rented a car we could do the trip in a few days and for about the same money as what we will spend on gas over three weeks of RVing. But look at what we would miss traveling and camping through 12 states! Watch for a 2004 Toyota Tacoma pulling a 1983 Burro. Catchusifyoucan!
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Old 08-15-2014, 01:14 PM   #175
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I'm so excited for you! You'll be in my neck of the woods. The Redwoods and Sequoias are truly something to behold and that journey... Best time of year imho...happy trails!

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Old 08-15-2014, 01:19 PM   #176
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Huh, guess Florida didn't get the Memo on cooler temps
It's so hot and humid here we haven't done any camping this summer at all. Looking forward to Oct or so when temps will hopefully back off. If not, we will plan a camping trip over Christmas break when the kids are out of school.

Melissa who isn't looking forward to this months electric bill

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You're right Vanessa there was a cool period that extended for a few decades, big news in the 70s. Many of the same people touting global warming touted a coming ice age.

The reality is that there has been no warming for 18 years and no one knows why. No matter what, hot or cold, we'll still be out there camping. We try to avoid the extremes though we did get snowed on in NL this spring.

Like you everyone's enjoying the cooler summer temperatures.
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Old 08-16-2014, 06:34 AM   #177
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Melissa,

Last winter we took a few month trip to the west and every night was freezing and we stayed as close to the border as possible, all of course before the big cross border immigration.

Ginny kept saying "Time to return to Florida" and we eventually did. It seems Florida stayed relatively warm last winter compared to most of the nation.

Florida has had 8-9 years of pretty good weather, no hurricanes making landfall, the longest period of hurricane free weather ever recorded, significant when over the long run 40% of all hurricanes make a landfall in Florida.

Air conditioning is a big FL cost. Be happy that FL has some of the lowest electric rates in the nation. Hawaii's are 3 times FL's and New England's are 60% higher, local choices at least in part.

Over 14 years we have probably camped in FL for 30 months and probably have not had to run our air conditioning more than 30 days, the winter months are rather pleasant in FL, at least central FL.

Yesterday was September in NH. Actually no one really minds the cooler than normal temperatures as long as it is not cooler than normal during the winter months.

Wishing you well for the remainder of August. Are you going to the Scamp Camp at Highland Hammocks this year?
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Old 08-21-2014, 09:40 AM   #178
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Rob, average of $30k is stunningly high; and $60k is unimaginable to me. We love to camp; we camped a lot when our kids were young but when they hit teenage years, they were no longer interested and got jobs and sports, etc. Now my wife and I want to get back into camping. We bought a Boler for $2,750. Yes, we spent a lot of time and money on a crazy reno that brings us happiness and was a great project for my wife and her dad. So let's say the trailer has cost us $12k, pretty much everything included. For that, in my opinion, we have a brand new trailer. We have not purchased a tow vehicle. We make do with my father-in-law's 1953 Mercury pick-up or their mini-van. We will buy their mini-van when they no longer need it. After that, our Toyota Corolla will go to the kids and we'll buy another 4 cylinder car, but one that can double as a tow vehicle. That is why we have a 13 foot fiberglass trailer. The gas mileage will be pretty good any way you look at it; and I don't think it would be accurate to attribute the tow vehicle expense (once we get our next car) to the trailer; we will be using it as a daily driver. We have 3 kids just entering adult-hood. My wife and I are nearing retirement. We expect the trailer will be used maybe 6 weekends per year (being conservative) until we are retired, then a LOT more use. We also expect it will become an extra bedroom if and when we buy a vacation property. We expect the trailer will be in the family and used by various family members for 25 years. We expect the trailer will result in reduced number of times we would have used more expensive travel options, but we will never know what the "cost avoidance" dollars might have been. The amortization of the $12k over 25 years, even if we only use it 6 times per year, is negligible. In exchange, we can make spur-of-the-moment decisions to go camping any time we want, knowing everything is ready to go, just back up, hook up, and go. And we will get out to national, provincial and state parks that we would not have visited otherwise. Without the trailer, we would likely limit ourselves to visiting cities (which we will still do). What is the price on all of that? As Mastercard would say ... Anyway, for us, the dollars speak strongly to us: yes, it is worth it. (But if I were looking at $60k, I would not do it and I am not at all sure I would do it for $30k either.)
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Old 08-21-2014, 09:53 AM   #179
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T&K,

We attended the vintage fiberglass rally in Prince Edward Island in2010(?). The couple across from us had a 'Mercury green" Boler they had restored. They towed it with a 1953 Mercury car that they had bought new. They had gone on their honeymoon with that car and trailer.

In 2010 their daughter married and used that same car and trailer for their honeymoon. Though the mercury was not a 4 cylinder, we towed our Scamp 16 with a four cylinder Honda CRV. We never had an issue. Of course it was more powerful than the Mercury.



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Old 08-21-2014, 10:26 AM   #180
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When my wife and I were in a campground near Backus, an older couple pulled in across from us in a 1972 "Honey" Boler made in Winnepeg. They came from Thunder Bay, Ont. and were dropping the trailer off at the Scamp plant for some minor repairs and mods. We had fun comparing our "State of the Art" 10 hour old Scamp 13 to their Boler. Not much difference, as most of you know. What the man did to the interior was mind blowing. Everything, and I mean everything inside was white! Most of it looked to be painted with a brush. He explained it was so mosquitos had no place to hide. He suggested we do the same. What a character! Practical to the max. Not my taste, but sure interesting. If not for owning and camping in our 'lil Scamp, we never would have met them.

That was day 1 in our new RV lifestyle. Multiply that experience by the thousands for some of you. How can it not be worth it?

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Old 08-21-2014, 10:29 AM   #181
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T&K

Thanks for your note and description of your camper and situation. Just for the record while recently out shopping for campers locally, (note I'm leaving no stone unturned) we came across the Lance line of TT which I was unfamiliar with before. While they look like sticky build's they are anything but and quite frankly I was astonished at the fit and finish on the inside, something I have yet to see in any other TT except maybe the Airstreams. And most importantly they had such intelligent and sensible floor plans, also something we have never seen before. By comparison it makes the AS TT and any other brand we have seen look idiotic IMHO. There are some aesthetic decisions that we could question but this is so subjective its not worth delving into.

As it turns out I knew the salesman to a degree, a straight shooter. We got to talking about this very issue in this thread and effectively he said my averages were quite low based upon his experience at sales for umpteen years. When I look at whats out on the road and in the campgrounds, on average, likewise as previously stated I also feel my numbers were low, yet realize there are those who have done it for far less.

At the risk of repeating myself I certainly applaud people who can delve into this activity as cheap as what you have been able to accomplish. Restoring a trailer for me just isn't in the cards, for one I have been restoring a house in a historical area of our town for well over 25 years and I still am not done, taking on a TT even if I had the space to do is of no interest to me. I honestly think I would build a brand new one from ground up before restoring something, seriously. Being self employed time is my most precious commodity and which I can find little of at far too often. However yours is way cool, just love it.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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Rob, average of $30k is stunningly high; and $60k is unimaginable to me.....

(But if I were looking at $60k, I would not do it and I am not at all sure I would do it for $30k either.)
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Old 08-21-2014, 10:44 AM   #182
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You might say we have a Bamp - original Boler trailer with Scamp kitchen cabinets, Scamp over-stove window, Scamp fridge, stove, sink and numerous other parts bought in Backus from the good folks at Scamp - which got its start by servicing Bolers.

My understanding about the "Honey" branding is that there were manufactured in Peace River, Alberta by a Boler franchisee.

Boler - putting the egg in Winnipeg since 1968.

Rust never sleeps. - Neil Young (and former Winnipegger)
Fiberglass never rusts. - Boler
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