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Old 07-26-2014, 09:46 PM   #29
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Naah, you should save the $ and buy a HUGE casket to take it with you.


Say to heck with it! Get what you want, do what you want, live life large (in a simple space) meet wonderful folks as you travel this great land, soak up the wonders around you.

Then you'll really have something to tell those other folks sitting with you on the puffy clouds instead of continually recounting your cash.


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Old 07-26-2014, 10:05 PM   #30
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Registry's the journey!

I'm a seasoned world traveler since the age of 6. I'm also an airline employee with access to the entire fleet of company planes and all their honeymoon destinations, as well as being a Hilton Honors and Marriott Rewards most know it's not what it used to be and I do my airline travel, esp overseas in the "offseason". I'm not complaining but it's tough to get on a flight in the summer when the passenger loads are heavy. Also the planes are smaller and just cramped. As I age, I need my time off and take it seriously.

I bought my trailer for less than $4K, used of course, but it was road and camp ready. I also enjoy glamping it up and making it my own. I live in Northern California and am blessed with the Redwoods, Sierras, Yosemite, Napa Valley, Mother Ocean and even great local and regional parks to enjoy exploring and camping.

I also have a 14 year old family dog who's got a few or maybe two good years left so I'm enjoying seeing the sights with her. She loves wherever we go. This weekend I'm here in the Central Coast of California along the Monterey Bay. Last night it was so warm, I grabbed the sleeping bag and Molly Moobear, walked to the end of the campsite on the bluff...there were no fog/clouds at all, which is truly unusual for the Coast in the summer. I set up our bed and watched shooting stars for hours as I listened to the crash of mellow waves against the rocks was balmy and there were NO bugs...No hotel room was going to give me the evening I had last night with my Moobear! :-)

A couple of young Germans are in the campsite next to me and this morning, I invited them over for breakfast and we chatted about their round the world trip, their first surf lesson in Fiji and watching the Humpbacks in the Bay this week/ How they're being taught how to feed and still making time to play and breach in plain sight! All of this kibbitzing and kvetching went on for over two hours, because camping lends itself to having time to enjoy what's around you without feeling the pressure of the rat rush.

This year, I've been out nearly every other weekend and this month every weekend...I'm booked all the way until October and looking to keep myself busy until hopefully the rains come to end this drought we're in!

I do hope this thread encourages you to make use of the equipment you've invested in and find the joys of the road less traveled.

Happy Trails....

-Vanessa matter where you go, there you are!
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Old 07-26-2014, 11:15 PM   #31
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It's all about one's personal priorities and likes/dislikes. I don't like being stuck in the house all summer (I have summers off from work, and it's HOT in Oklahoma during summer). I do like the smell of the pines and cedars, the caress of a light 70 degree breeze while walking, the sounds of the outdoors, and great scenery. Traveling and taking scenic photos has always been important to me. Plus it's good for me (I get more exercise!).

I already need to have a tow-worthy vehicle for work, so that is covered. I have to eat, too. The costs for me are the trailer, the gas, and the campground fees.

This summer is a little different for me, because I sold the trailer recently and I haven't gotten a replacement. But the Tetons are calling me! So I am trying something different. I bought a Coleman Instant Cabin 6 tent and a Coleman Comfortsmart Deluxe Camp Cot. This way I can zing to the Tetons in 2 days at 75 mph (instead of 2.5 days @ 60), and get 23 mpg (instead of 11) doing it. So in a way I'm sort of experimenting with the "is trailering really worth it" right now myself. After trailering for about 9 summers straight, it's time for something a bit different. I know I will miss being able to park in the campsite, simply jump into the trailer and eat/sleep/whatever regardless of the weather. But on the other hand I will be regaining a more intimate connection with the outdoors.

Our tenting many years ago was different. We'd set up a tent with poles that hardly seem to fit, cram the family into a barely-big-enough tent, and sleep on lousy pads on the ground. Now I'll be camping alone in a tent spacious enough to easily hold a surprisingly comfy cot plus my zero gravity lounger, with generous windows on all 4 sides so it can double as a screened shelter by day; and this tent with all poles pre-attached goes up and down amazingly fast. I'm really looking forward to giving this a try for a while. No trailer depreciation or maintenance or winterizing, half as much fuel expense, and faster travel to my distant destinations.

When I retire I'll have more time and speed won't matter so much. I'll definitely want an RV again by then for sure. Maybe much sooner... time will tell. In the meantime it's time for a new adventure! I expect to leave late next week.
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Old 07-27-2014, 07:43 AM   #32
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I've been giving your post more thought. There's certainly not much to disagree with. Low use results in high cost per use. As to cost, there's no doubt that having expensive 'hobbies' like boats, planes and rvs that are rarely used are expensive on a per use basis. Most of us have been down that road. I had a boat that never saw water.

It's obvious that most responders feel their life on the road is worth the cost, and usually their cost is not too excessive. However there were other comments in your post about the comparative stress of towing and setup/tear down time.

We have found towing a trailer relatively effortless. We choose routes that help making driving easier. For example when heading out we avoid the Interstates with their high speed and congestion. We do not drive as fast on non-Interstate roads which makes the drive more enjoyable and the fuel consumption less. If traffic builds behind us we just pull over and let them pass, not attempting to drive faster to lead the pack.

As to setup and tear down, when we reach a campsite it takes us less than 15 minutes to be set up. We've tried to organize our trailer living for minimum effort and hassle.

On days we drive, we wake up about at the usual 6 AM and are on the road by 8 AM after a good breakfast and getting ready for the day. The whole hookup process takes about 15 minutes, maybe 10 minutes more if we're dumping. With the early start we're usually done driving by noon. It's obvious we don't attempt long distance drives, another stress reducer.

Thanks for starting an interesting topic. I particularly enjoyed the words of the many happy travelers.
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Old 07-27-2014, 08:19 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by Donna D. View Post
Someone sent this to me. I think it sums up "why" very nicely. The only thing missing is the tug needs to have an all molded towable behind it!
Thanks for the words of encouragement! They are so right! Time flies by so fast, especially as we get older!
I needed to hear those words of wisdom today!

If you don't know where you are going, you might wind up someplace else! Yogi Berra
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Old 07-27-2014, 08:38 AM   #34
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This a great discussion of the pros and cons of RVing! I have enjoyed reading everyone's input and thoughts! I am glad that there is such strong feelings on RVing and the cost! It appears that the cost can be measured in many different ways! More than just dollars and cents!
Thank you all for sharing your thoughts and experience on RVing!
I have learned a lot from reading this thread!

If you don't know where you are going, you might wind up someplace else! Yogi Berra
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Old 07-27-2014, 08:58 AM   #35
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Someone posted this on a RV group page on Facebook. I see both the humor and the truth in it.
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Old 07-27-2014, 09:05 AM   #36
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I like camping. The $ are not an issue for me.
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Old 07-27-2014, 10:08 AM   #37
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"Camping: Where you spend a small fortune to live like a homeless person"


My view is a little the opposite. I have a small fortune that allows me to camp because I did not live or work like a homeless person.

I recently had to emcee a 50th wedding anniversary for a RV couple. The event took place in an RV park with about 100 older attendees. RVers generally seem to be solid citizens.

I researched reaching the fifty milestone (not millstone) and found that only 5% of American couples made it to their 50th. I asked the audience to raise their hands if they had made it to their 50th, well over 5%. Of course a biased audience but still. I find RV couples to generally like each other, maybe if you don't you can't travel for long periods in small spaces and yes there are people with 40 foot motor homes with 4 slide outs who think their space is too small, probably the reason for 45 foot motor homes.

Though it's not a concern in my decision to RV, I believe you can be a happy RVing couple for less than the cost of living in a traditional home. Actually if you're willing to do a little work you can live in some of the most beautiful and interesting places for no fees with full hookups.

Last year we were in the east side of the Chiricahua mountains at Sunny Flats Campground, surrounded by brilliantly colored cliffs, the silence of nature along with it's wildness (bear poop in the campground road). The sites are non-serviced except for the camp host and they were looking for one. An absolutely beautiful spot, just one of the campgrounds in the east side of the Chiricahua's Coronado Forest.

The west side the Chiricahua's Mountains has a single campground with sites only suited for fiberglass sized RVs. Ginny and I have visited the Chiricahua Mountains four times in our travels. Really worth the trip.

Definitely not my intent to attack the homeless, I started and manned both a soup kitchen and homeless shelter in my younger days and in some measure understand their plight.
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Old 07-27-2014, 10:23 AM   #38
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For the first 4 years I owned Condo A-GO-GO, I only used it once or twice a year. It was too much work for just a 3 day weekend. But, now that I can make my weekends as long or short as I want, it gets alot of use. I especially like National Parks. Even though they don't have hookups, and you have to fill your fresh water tank before going in, where else will elk or deer walk right thru your campsite? That don't happen at Holiday Inn. It's only as expensive a you let it become. When it becomes work, then I'll quit.

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Old 07-27-2014, 11:21 AM   #39
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A couple of counterpoints which are just as subjective as the points to which they refer...
1] I prefer the Interstate highway system to reach the general area of interest. It is faster even at moderate speeds, it is generally safer and holding a steady speed without constant stops provides me with better fuel economy, and less stress on both people and equipment. Without the Interstate system, our yearly pilgrimage to southern Florida for instance would be tedious and impractical. I do see the merits of backroads and two lanes for interest and exploration when a destination is not paramount.

2] I feel much more like a homeless person when I find myself searching(almost begging) for a motel room, than I do knowing that my snug little home is reassuringly clinging to my bumper proffering all the comforts of the finest accommodations.
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Old 07-27-2014, 12:19 PM   #40
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My wife and I started camping when young because we couldn't afford motels/restaurants. Then our two kids came along. Anyway, we became hooked on camping. First in tents and some backpacking. Jump ahead to a station wagon that slept the four of us, a van that we slept in, under a topper on the back of a pickup, several popup trailers, some travel trailers, two fifth wheels, and now my EggCamper. Though my wife passed away, I wintered in Arizona last winter in my EggCamper. The only thing we never had was a motorhome. This lifestyle has become a way of life. We both disliked motels for the reasons previously stated. I just bought a new to me 2012 Chevy Silverado 4x4 and have ordered an Escape 19. My philosophy is that we earned it and are entitled to use our money however we choose. One of my favorite sayings is "if I don't spend it, the kids will get it." They're already getting a small amount of their inheritance so I can enjoy seeing them using it for whatever. I have told both kids about spending it and they're fine with it. And no matter what, they'll become the 5th generation in the family to own the land where I live bought by my great grandfather after he got out of the Union army. Besides that, how many overnight hotel guests have you spent an evening with? RVers, in my book, are the best.
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Old 07-27-2014, 12:20 PM   #41
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We're obviously not destination people. I do understand those that are destination drivers and have less time then us. Heck our first destination trip was to Florida and it took us 18 weeks from NH. I guess we're not typical.

Non Interstate roads can be roads with lots of lights however they can be roads with few stops as well depending on the road and the part of the country. When we're more west where Interstates can have light traffic we do sometimes drive them. We're not road religious by any means though in FL we hardly ever drive Interstates, over the years we've learned the 'back alternatives'.

In our case getting to FL is never less than a week from NH and usually more.
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Old 07-27-2014, 12:43 PM   #42
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There certainly have been some interesting comments and responses from my initial post, thank you all for contributing and please don't stop now.

However reading through them I feel I might have given some wrong impressions and perhaps rubbed some people on the forum the wrong way or insulted their hobbies and pastime activities. Just to be clear that was not the intent by any measure. I applaud anyone who can pursue the camping lifestyle be it full time or weekend warrior for nickels, dimes and quarters on the dollars compared to my average cost analysis. For the record based upon my own observations while out camping if anything I feel my average cost is low rather than high. Understand I am including the entire genre of NA camping, not just the good folks here on fiberglassrv. Granted there are many many people here on the forum who have accomplished this for far less and are still having a great time which is fabulous. But I personally don't think this constitutes a NA average investment. Not even sure its constitutes an average cost here at FGRV, but we would probably have to create a poll to determine this and doubt its worth the effort.

Being relatively new to the forum and unknown, perhaps it would be good time to provide some background info about myself. There seems to be a bit of misunderstanding and confusion on this as well. My wife and I have been at this camping activity for well over 35 years, first backpacking, then car camping via tents once our daughter was born, as she grew older back to backpacking with some road trips and tent camping thrown in. Our daughter had her first camping trip before she was six months old at Little River Canyon State Park, AL and it didn't stop there throughout her entire childhood right through high school. We backpacked and camped with her and our pet soul mate, Mocha the Chocolate Lab, in the Beartooth Plateau & Mountains of WY and MT among other places all over the west. In 2001 we finally broke down and bought a Coleman pop up camper, not the best decision by an means, then sold that and bought our T@b in '07. Its been as far as the Gulf Coast and over most of the western US several times. Even camped in it during a 15º night at Chaco Canyon NP, then got up the next morning and hiked the rim trail at the park.

Before meeting my wife I bicycle toured with a buddy all over New Zealand and a good portion of the east coast of Australia. This was long before the plethora of organized bicycle tours existed in those countries. To say we were a novelty would be putting it mildly. We had planned to camp the entire half year journey but the friendly people of NZ adopted us where ever we went inviting us to stay in their homes. The entire trip we slept on the ground maybe a fistful of days max. It was one of the greatest adventures ever. My only regret, wish I had been with my wife on this one. While in college another buddy and I paddled the Little Cahaba River in AL during a tornado from its origins almost to the confluence with the Alabama River much further south. We were lucky to get out alive. We spent most of one night digging trenches with a Del Monte Peach can so that the heavy rains did not wash our tent away. The river rose some 7 or 8 feet bare minimum over night with the canoe being half submerged in the morning while tied to a tree on the bank. It gave a whole new definition to white water canoeing in a Grumman Aluminum canoe during the next couple of days. Little water became Big Water!

My wife and I just returned from a trip up to the Flathead Valley area of MT for a week then down to the Tetons for another week. Each day if not out hiking we cycled anywhere from 25/30 to 50 or more miles per day, then go for a paddle with our kayaks at places like Whitefish River and Lake. During this last adventure it became fairly clear to us we either wanted or needed a larger camper to accommodate our needs and desires, not the least of which is a shower at days end. Bird baths after a 50 mile bike ride just doesn't cut it. I just turned 65 a few days ago, my wife is 59, neither of us look it (or so we are told) and our daughter and son in law think I act like a 12 year old on my better behaved days.

The point of this, do we have memories? You better believe it. Have either of us been part of the "herd" mentality acting like sheeple as one respondent implied, eh probably not. Quite frankly I have had more fun in life than any 10 other people have the right to and much of it while camping. This is not our first rodeo. But the both of us staring down the barrel of what we felt we wanted or needed as an camper upgrade became a very sobering thought at the tune of $200-$400 per night.

Hopefully this addendum will add some useful facet to the conversation. And again my sincere apologies if I have offended anyone by they topic.


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