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Old 07-27-2014, 01:51 PM   #43
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Someone posted this on a RV group page on Facebook. I see both the humor and the truth in it.



I think this was written by someone who had never camped, who bought everything the salesman said they 'needed', and from lack of experience, set up everything poorly in the lowest spot available. Then there is better than a 50/50 chance it rained.

How many folks have related a story like this after saying with surprise, 'You camp?!?!?!?!?'

I think this situatian applies to many first time trailer campers as well.

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Old 07-27-2014, 02:04 PM   #44
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Rob, First I thought your initial comments were good and opened a good discussion. Thank you.

Steve, The statement is not "You Camp!!" but rather "You Camp in that!!!"

It is the rare person who can believe we have stayed in our Scamp 16 310 days in a row and that includes many small trailer owners.

It's sort of the same look we get when we show them where our bed is in the Scamp.

No matter how happy we look, how satisfied with our travels, they can not believe that two can live in a small trailer for an extended period.
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Old 07-27-2014, 02:46 PM   #45
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No matter how happy we look, how satisfied with our travels, they can not believe that two can live in a small trailer for an extended period.
Now you have done it Norm. I am beginning to wonder if you are in reality a 14 year old boy sitting in front of a computer in the middle of New York City with an active imagination. Really, has anybody ever met Norm? Anybody?
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Tom, I can tell you that if I were 14 I would be in front of a computer and never would go to school. I certainly would learn faster there then in a classroom. I was never in sync with the classroom.
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Old 07-27-2014, 03:26 PM   #47
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Now you have done it Norm. I am beginning to wonder if you are in reality a 14 year old boy sitting in front of a computer in the middle of New York City with an active imagination. Really, has anybody ever met Norm? Anybody?


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Old 07-27-2014, 06:14 PM   #48
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I give you my word that Norm and Ginny are real. Scouts Honour. I have met them, had supper at their home in NH and enjoyed the company of their grandchildren. I have interviewed them on VOBB as part of the Trails, Tales & Tunes Festival in Norris Pt. NL. I have been to concerts with them and shared a few stories. There is a picture out there somewhere to prove it.
I believe that there is a very simple answer to their lifestyle. LOVE and FRIENDSHIP. They must be the very best of friends and they really must love each other unconditionally. Shared interests, hobbies, a desire to travel and having the courage to live the way they do are just bonuses.
Without the first two, it would not work. More power to them.
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Old 07-27-2014, 06:40 PM   #49
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Thank you Dave, it's good to have confirmation that I am alive.

Scouter Dave is a wonderful person.

Dave did stop at our house for dinner. While there he gave each of the children a bracelet he had made. A year later our niece asked as we were headed off to Newfoundland if we were going to see Dave. Dave is a memorable guy on many levels.

Love and Friendship. Interesting thought Dave. Ginny and I were friends for 3 years before I was able to get a date, though I saw her most days of the week. I am persistent if nothing else.

I think friendship carries a level of accommodation that may not be true of love. I see people who profess love for each other but do not seem to be true friends.

I suspect this is a bad avenue to head down in this thread, but important for long term travel. I've never given it much thought but Ginny always spoke about the importance of being friends. Another one of those seeds planted by her mother.... I will say the road has made me a better friend, Ginny was always great.

Definitely something to think about.
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Old 07-27-2014, 08:05 PM   #50
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Camping is far from being "homeless". Instead, camping is taking one's home to a beautiful new spot for a short time. I have temporarily moved my home to Yosemite, to the shore of Lake Superior, to 10,000 feet between Silverton and Ouray CO, and to many other fabulous locations.

As for cost, the home on wheels can be expensive or it can be inexpensive, depending upon what one purchases. The fuel and campsite fees... well, they are what they are.
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Old 07-27-2014, 08:24 PM   #51
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While some KNOW it's expensive the way they choose to RV, some don't realize what they're spending, I think. It's good to have this conversation, and I feel it's good to figure out your per-trip average, and see if you ARE OK with that. Are you getting enough "value" back in experiences? If not, how can you change that?

For us, I've realized that we've chosen one of the least expensive ways to camp in something more substantial than a tent. When I break down the costs, it's really not bad for us. And, as others have said, we have 2 dogs that would be tough to travel with in hotels.

I've gone through a lot of the thought exercises for myself. As I prepare to dig into tearing apart a 33 year old camper, and get ready to spend thousands on new parts, and MANY hours on making it what we want it to be, I want to REALLY be sure that I'm doing something that's worthwhile to us.

So thanks for bringing up the question. I feel some topics aren't discussed enough here, like this.
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If I look at the price we paid for our camper, and divide that by the total square feet we got, I figure it puts us in the same price range as Bill Gates' home. Then, we pay $25 or so per night to sleep in our own bed. Then, we provide climate-controlled storage to it for the 350 or so nights per year that we are not using it. I must be out of my mind, right?

Well, not so much. Because we keep it garaged, it is like new, and we could still sell it for nearly what we paid for it. And, if we keep it 10 years, and use it 15 nights per year, and it depreciates $1500 over that time (try that with a sticky!), then it cost us $10 per night to own.

Add that to the $25 per night camping fee, (we frequently pay considerably less), and we have an average cost of somewhere south of $35 per night. We have stayed in some $35 motels, and it ain't pretty.

By contrast, most of the places we have stayed in the camper are VERY pretty. During a 24-hour day of camping, we are entertained for roughly 16 hours. Hmm... $35 pays for 16 hours of entertainment for two people. That works out to $1.10 per hour/per person for entertainment, and we still get a free night's sleep in a clean, comfy bed. Sounds cheap to me.

If we stayed home, I would work. Yard work. House work. Work, work, work. Take my hourly wage, and multiply that by how many hours of work I am doing, and NOT GETTING PAID FOR, and it is it costing me a fortune to stay home.

In fact, now that I look at it, I don't see how I can afford to NOT go camping. It is almost like money in the bank! I think we'll just go camping for the next few weekends. I just don't see how I can beat the value of camping.
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Old 07-29-2014, 02:40 PM   #53
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Gonna try it...

I will leave home on August 12th. for seven weeks on the road. It will be the shake down cruise for the Trillium 4500 that found its way back to me after several years. The next major trek will start in December for four months in the sunny south. It will be a bittersweet journey but I need to do it, just to see if I can. It is an itch that needs scratching. If I survive I will have to have a serious look at spending more time on the road.

Thanks for opening up this thread. There has been some wonderful responses, feedback and advice. Full-timing may not be for everyone but it always drums up some interest. SD.
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I like camping. The $ are not an issue for me.
Ditto this. If it's within your means, who cares how much you spend to do something you enjoy doing? What is expensive for one person may be cheap for the next.
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I bought my trailer (1979 Trillium Jubilee) for 2 grand. We were looking mostly at pop-ups, the idea being to get us up off the ground for sleeping. Total refurb last year cost me about 2 weeks heavy labor and just under $800 in materials. That includes new floors (plywood, vinyl) and new counter (corian, $280). The year before that the wife made new cushion covers and curtains. I think she spent about $200 in materials, all told.

So, three grand. We take it camping at least twice a year, to a place we've been going for 31 years now. It's a shelter/bed on wheels for something we'd be doing anyway. And it keeps our old bodies more comfortable.

Worth every dime, I'd say.
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If I look at the price we paid for our camper, and divide that by the total square feet we got, I figure it puts us in the same price range as Bill Gates' home. Then, we pay $25 or so per night to sleep in our own bed. Then, we provide climate-controlled storage to it for the 350 or so nights per year that we are not using it. I must be out of my mind, right?

Well, not so much. Because we keep it garaged, it is like new, and we could still sell it for nearly what we paid for it. And, if we keep it 10 years, and use it 15 nights per year, and it depreciates $1500 over that time (try that with a sticky!), then it cost us $10 per night to own.

Add that to the $25 per night camping fee, (we frequently pay considerably less), and we have an average cost of somewhere south of $35 per night. We have stayed in some $35 motels, and it ain't pretty.

By contrast, most of the places we have stayed in the camper are VERY pretty. During a 24-hour day of camping, we are entertained for roughly 16 hours. Hmm... $35 pays for 16 hours of entertainment for two people. That works out to $1.10 per hour/per person for entertainment, and we still get a free night's sleep in a clean, comfy bed. Sounds cheap to me.

If we stayed home, I would work. Yard work. House work. Work, work, work. Take my hourly wage, and multiply that by how many hours of work I am doing, and NOT GETTING PAID FOR, and it is it costing me a fortune to stay home.

In fact, now that I look at it, I don't see how I can afford to NOT go camping. It is almost like money in the bank! I think we'll just go camping for the next few weekends. I just don't see how I can beat the value of camping.
I like your opinion a lot. Life is too short to...complain ab just...anything. I would take time off from work w/o pay any chance I could and just for camping. Wife is busy for...$$$$, fine to me, I just pull trailer and camping with the kids and few buddies of mine. Nowadays, life is full of stress from money, housing, loan, mortgage, bills, work...ect...I feel myself as a..free man from the real ugly world when I sit with Buddies, drinking all night in the wild. Without trailer, hydro...I even camp in the wild with tent. Once I sit drinking out door in the wild, snow falling around me but camp fire kept me warm, bring myself back to the...age of old days when I was a kid. Way better than....WORK. To me, working to support the life is.....TERRIBLE. That is MANDATORY. Hey, wild life survives without...ever WORK! Lol...
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