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Old 07-02-2015, 07:08 PM   #29
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I pondered before posting...

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I work for a Fortune 500 company. Facebook owns the content displayed... it's almost impossible to get a page taken down Same with Google analytics. The best thing Parkliner can do is make sure their WEBSITE is accurate and hope folks that are visiting once AGAIN have cleared their cache. What you SEE may not be the most CURRENT!
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Old 07-02-2015, 08:03 PM   #31
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Oh well,
We gave up on Chandler over a year ago. This development was as unfortunate as it was predictable. We love our PL, having had the wheel wells modified locally, (and for which we were reimbursed by PL). I guess there is a certain cachet to owning a "limited edition." We hope to get many more miles and memories out of #34. For the price, layout and east coast accessibility we chose a FG camper which suited our needs and budget and has, and is, serving us well. We hope this remains true for the foreseeable future. Time will tell.
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Old 07-02-2015, 08:26 PM   #32
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No, I think I got your point just fine. You said "overwhelmed by demand". I simply added I didn't think they had too much demand, but a management dust up.

Whatever caused the problem, here's hoping they survive.

I mean this kindly, but if you don't want your point "missed" perhaps you should make it more clearly. Demand is not the same as interest or inquiry. Demand deals with production - or supply. Words have meaning.
I agree, words have meaning. If you have read the long threads on this company you will know about the problems both in initial quality and communication. Overwhelmed by the demands of running the business was what I should have said. Sorry i wasn't clear. But the point of my post was to say something positive, acknowledge the unique design of the trailer and express hope the trend continues. That seems to have been missed. Raz
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I hate to see a thread called Parkliner is out of Business when we don't know that to be true. We don't want people to think they are out of business if they are still in business.
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HEY Chandler!!
Please come on here and tell your story.
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Old 07-02-2015, 11:01 PM   #35
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About Parkliners current status, lets examine what's apparently known for sure:


Empty building/new tenants.
No forwarding Address.
No updates on internet posts.
Does not answer phone and no forwarding phone number.


Without any of the mentioned "clues", a reasonable person would have to think that they have either:
a) Moved into a witness protection program
b) Were abducted by aliens who thought that they were building secret escape pods for earthlings.
c) Prefer to work in a secret location so as to not be interrupted by customers
d) Are hiding from creditors
or
e) They are out of business


To give Chandler the benefit of the doubt I will go with B until more information is available.
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I hate to see a thread called Parkliner is out of Business when we don't know that to be true. We don't want people to think they are out of business if they are still in business.
Best way to stop it is to put forward some solid evidence that suggest they are not out of business - thats a sure fire way to stop a thread in its tracks or a rumour from going viral.
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Best way to stop it is to put forward some solid evidence that suggest they are not out of business - thats a sure fire way to stop a thread in its tracks or a rumour from going viral.
I believe 2 people in this thread said Chandler told them he was moving the business to his home shop. That would explain why parkliner is no longer at their former location.

At this time, whether Parkliner is still in business is a question, not a fact. I'm just saying a post that states Parkliner is Out of Business as a fact is premature at best. It is not fair to Parkliner and not fair to Parkliner owners or to the RV community in general.
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Someone needs to drive to Chandler's home / shop and verify whether
he and Parkliner are truely alive. Until then I am going with Bob , -B. Space
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About Parkliners current status, lets examine what's apparently known for sure:


Empty building/new tenants.
No forwarding Address.
No updates on internet posts.
Does not answer phone and no forwarding phone number.


Without any of the mentioned "clues", a reasonable person would have to think that they have either:
a) Moved into a witness protection program
b) Were abducted by aliens who thought that they were building secret escape pods for earthlings.
c) Prefer to work in a secret location so as to not be interrupted by customers
d) Are hiding from creditors
or
e) They are out of business


To give Chandler the benefit of the doubt I will go with B until more information is available.
Now, that brightened my morning! How creative!

Drawing from my obsession with everything RV for probably 25 years and seeing things similar, there were a variety of issues. It is a great looking trailer and I was considering it myself for awhile. The issues I saw were intertwined.

First, most start-up businesses try to keep the prices as low as possible in order to get their foot in the market. That leaves very little spare cash. They were not able to get back to people making inquiries because they probably didn't have the personnel to do it and couldn't afford to pay someone. Generally in a start-up, everyone there is working their tails off. Had they gotten back to the potential buyers trying to inquire, they would not have had the manpower, time and space to produce the trailers anyway.

Second, they had the issues where they were paying for repairs which was an unexpected expense and with finances tight, I am sure that was uncomfortable for them and probably caused a lot of stress on the relationship of those involved. I saw this with Nu-Wa, a higher end 5th wheel that went out of business but after a couple of years, they are now producing units again.

From everything, it looks like they didn't take anyone's deposit and run with it and they deserve high praise for integrity in that area.

Producing one a month? Surprisingly, a lot of businesses started out that way. I took a course in cost accounting when I was in junior college in the last century and it was fascinating and very complicated. I worked for New Horizons, factory-direct 5th wheels, when they had just been in business a couple of years. They were only producing 2 units a month. They would be ordering parts only as they needed them and unlike Fleetwood, they ordered 1 or 2 items instead of a 1,000 which costs more since higher quantities get higher price breaks. Prices would go up overnight and since units were pre-ordered with a set price, the cost had to be absorbed from the profits or the pockets of the owners.

So, I think one a month would be a good idea to really get an idea of time required and the cost of producing a unit.

I could be totally wrong but this is just my thoughts on how it might have unfolded.

I hope we see them resurface and thrive.
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I've just sent chandler a text with a link to his thread inviting him to tell the story. So I guess we'll see.....
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I've just sent chandler a text with a link to his thread inviting him to tell the story. So I guess we'll see.....
LOL Someone who has his secret phone number

Your next text to him should be with the suggestion that he at the very least update his website to reflect his new location IF he is still in fact in business.
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While it may or may not make any difference to some of the parties, a small RV company behaving in such an indifferent manner can also effect the interest shown in other FGRV start-ups, of which there are at least 4 this year alone, sending business that they might have gotten, to more established builders.


Good for the big (?) guys, bad for the small ones.
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