Is the Oliver Elite II a Four Season Camper? - Page 2 - Fiberglass RV


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-18-2014, 01:32 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
kirkman's Avatar
 
Name: Jason
Trailer: 2007 Eggcamper & Homemade Tear Drop
New York
Posts: 656
Registry
Now you have me wondering how well my Eggcamper will do in the extreme cold. I have camped in my tear drop as cold as -9. I'm going to have to go out and try the egg when it gets really cold!!!!
Jason
__________________

__________________
Jason
If you think you are to small to make a difference just try sleeping with a mosquito - The Dally Lama
kirkman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2014, 04:26 PM   #16
Senior Member
 
accrete's Avatar
 
Name: Thom
Trailer: Chevy AWD Van Conversion
Astoria Oregon
Posts: 1,015
Registry
saw the "Cold weather camping" in the tittle and enjoyed the read and good info shared.

My wife and i do live in a mild climate weather wise here on the Oregon Coat, BUT we do full time in our RVs (Van Conversion, Parkliner TT, and our main "Home" a 40ft 5th wheel). There might be a few tid bits to pass on...

When we are in our big rig (4 to 5 weeks out of 6 weeks) we are plugged into a 50amp service and run one of the small cube heaters down in the basement at its 750w setting when temps are near freezing (i set up a remote start, and this keeps the basement well above freezing). We prefer the little electric heater as i have to pay extra for propane if i'm filling tanks with the current prices where they are...so i'll save a few bucks a month on heating with electric. Our temps in our Tesla T3970 toy hauler (new this October, traded in the 38ft Mobile Suite) stay about 30 degrees warmer inside running another cube heater at its medium setting of 900w. That is fine with us as we prefer the interior at about 55-60 at night.

When we are winter camping we go to one of the many State Parks in the Pacific Northwest that remain open year round and will use cube heaters in both the Van and Parkliner. The PL has only one outer FG shell with a single layer of Reflectix on it so the little cube will run 80%on/20%off nearly all night at the 750w (rather than 1200w) setting and interior temps are a comfortable-for-us upper 60's for lounging before we head to bed in the Van Conversion. We know this little heater works like this as our two adult kids have spent nights camping in winter inside the PL on electric.

In the van it is a different story...included here as to the benefit of multiple layers (like your Olivers) of Reflectix/Shell. We have a 6 layer sandwich of bubble-wrap/Reflectix/bubble-wrap/Reflectix/Mylar/Hull Liner Fabric. The same cube heater at 750w setting runs at about 20% on/80% off and will keep the van at the same upper 60's...about 1/3rd the power needs as the Parkliner.

Cheers, and happy camping! The Olivers are beautiful rigs.
Thom
__________________

__________________
Blogging from the WET! Coast of Oregon
Bed, Bath, & Beyond...
2010 Chevy Express 1500 AWD Van
Archive: Parkliner #35 build thread
accrete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2014, 05:02 PM   #17
Senior Member
 
cpaharley2008's Avatar
 
Name: jim
Trailer: 2016 2ndGen Escape19 Prairie Schooner pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,398
Registry
It is the windows in the Parkliner and van that you will lose the most heat, thermopane windows with the proper insulation will keep you toasty.
__________________
Jim
Never in doubt, often wrong
cpaharley2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2014, 05:19 PM   #18
Senior Member
 
Name: Ron
Trailer: 2015 Oliver Legacy Elite II - Hull #69
South Carolina
Posts: 356
Thanks for the input Thom. Like you, I put a cube heater in the basement. Makes a big difference. Another thing I do is put one of those pillows in the roof vent - it's a square foam pad about 3" thick with reflectix on one side and terry cloth on the other- keeps a lot if heat from going out the roof.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
2015 Oliver Legacy Elite II - Hull #69
Follow my blog - http://www.wincrasher.blogspot.com
Ron Merritt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2014, 05:39 PM   #19
Senior Member
 
accrete's Avatar
 
Name: Thom
Trailer: Chevy AWD Van Conversion
Astoria Oregon
Posts: 1,015
Registry
Jim, for sure on the thermal loss on those windows. We put up DIY window covers of Reflectix each night after sunset in both rigs just to keep things cozier inside though we do keep a window or two cracked for ventilation.

Ron, yuppers on the fan insert. We use them in our full time rig since we have such a cavernous amout of room and good air circulation per our desires. Our issue on comfort here on the Oregon Coast has much to do with balancing (in our experience) between temp and humidity. What we can get away with in a 40ft RV (closed up roof vents) we find in the smaller rigs to be a detriment as the two of us in such a small space (our 1/2 ton regular body van conversion) at night is more comfortable with a window cracked and the MaxxFan roof vent cracked for air flow. When our two kids spent a week-of-nights in the Parkliner they thought closing up the trailer tight would somehow create a nicer environment (warmer?)...but in the first two mornings they had condensation and a high-humidity-associated chill...sooooo....Mom & Dad suggested, gasp, that they keep each window just ever so slightly open (1/4"?) (all are jalousie and good in rain) and the MaxxFan cracked. The next morning, no condensation on windows, and no morning chill (associated with high humidity anyway...but then they were on both leave from over in Dubai & Iraq...so anything under 80 was cold!).

Ramblin and dreaming.

I'm going to see what the Oliver 17 footer weighs in at for actual down-the-road use as we really prefer the two-room set up we have (Van/bed + TT/great-room) and would like to keep the AWD van (now out of production). I wish it could happily tow the 5500 or so down the road weight of a 23.6 Ollie, but i'd have to talk Cari into leaving all her gold prospecting gear out except a plastic pan as we'd be over our GCVWR of 12K (Van sits at 7k on scales ready to camp).

Cheers,
Thom
__________________
Blogging from the WET! Coast of Oregon
Bed, Bath, & Beyond...
2010 Chevy Express 1500 AWD Van
Archive: Parkliner #35 build thread
accrete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2014, 07:57 PM   #20
Commercial Member
 
Name: Robert
Trailer: Oliver Legacy
Tennessee
Posts: 80
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Outlaw View Post
To that I feel the need to add, (being that I live in an area of extreme climate especially with winter conditions), make no mistake if it is cold and you have howling winds like we often do here in the northern hinterlands that wind will suck the life and heat right out of a house, automobile and no doubt a camper, I don't care how well its insulate or airtight its just the laws of physics. The difference with winter wind is palpable.
Hey Rob,
You touched on a very important aspect mentioning a trailer being Air Tight.
This is a very important fact of all fiberglass trailers. The inherent attributes of fiberglass over a "Sticky" which has so many seams that leak either the heat or the cool from the AC of a trailer IMHP is of major importance.
With an infinite supply of propane a specific temperature could possibly be obtained across the board in any trailer.
Working towards the aspects of minimum energy IE electric/propane usage is an issue we are focused on improving upon.
Great Thread!
__________________
Robert Partee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2014, 08:22 PM   #21
Commercial Member
 
Name: Robert
Trailer: Oliver Legacy
Tennessee
Posts: 80
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008 View Post
What's wrong with the on board propane heater, with 4 trojans you should be good for awhile.
Hey Jim,
Great point, the Trojan battery upgrade can give you a 450AH battery bank that most our customers jowl drops when it is mentioned. Forget about trying to heat the unit as 95% of campers that buy a trailer is to head south if the temp drops bellow 49 degrees.
So many experienced trailer owners can get by with a single 27D for several days on 115AH or 230AH with 2 batteries. Having 450AH blows their minds and they could live on that alone for weeks without a recharge needed. Add the 320 watt solar package and one could go for weeks/months/years depending on their location and amp draw per hour.
__________________

__________________
Robert Partee is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
oliver


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
BC | SOLD 1994 B21 Bigfoot Trailer (Four Season Model) Simon A Classified Archives 3 05-05-2015 12:23 AM
four season, how to tell? krusty Problem Solving | Owners Helping Owners 9 02-17-2015 04:39 AM
Small Four Season Fiberglass Camper? Reggie Jones General Chat 14 02-22-2013 10:15 AM
Four season Scamp Raz General Chat 0 02-05-2013 07:15 AM
New Four Season Luxury Camper Rick Jokes, Stories & Tall Tales 3 07-09-2006 03:28 PM

» Upcoming Events
No events scheduled in
the next 465 days.
» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.