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Old 03-09-2003, 02:11 PM   #1
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I've gone legit!

Well, gang, it happened. Yesterday, I became the proud owner of a 1987 Scamp 13 Deluxe with bathroom. Whew! And, with the first trip only a couple months away, I've got a lot to do! I'll post the "before" pictures below. Anyway, I'm afraid I've violated a number of the rules of male-ness in the process.

First of all, I bought sight-unseen. At least, I tried to. The camper was for sale through a middle-man. I made all the arrangements, drove 300 miles down to Kentucky, met with the middle-man, drove over to see the camper, and ... the owner had gone away for the day. So, I got to see the camper, but went home empty-handed (empty-hitched?) Turns out he had a new grandbaby born the day before, and forgot all about me coming. So, I made another trip down yesterday (this all adds up to a LOT of driving) and we completed the deal.

Second violation -- I'm on record on this site as saying that I didn't think bathrooms were necessary for "real camping", and that they basically amounted to a waste of space -- particularly in a 13 footer, where it was out of the question. Here I am with a 13 foot bather.

Anyway, there is an interesting story that comes with this camper. I got it from the original owner, and he tells me that it is the very first 13 foot Scamp with the bath/shower. He specifically wanted a bathroom, and specifically wanted a 13 footer. Scamp said they didn't put bath/showers in the 13. He said, "If you build it, I'll buy it". They did, he did, and they've been building them ever since. True story? I dunno, but Scamp said the time frame is about right.

Being the presumed first bathroom, Scamp said, "I'll be the floor is rotted, right?" Yep, the floor is gone under the bathroom. That's the major project. Second is that it's filthy. There is a brewery 1/2 mile upwind, and the thing is caked in coal grime. But, I think it will turn out great! How about some pictures?
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Before hitting the road, I repacked the wheel bearings and checked tire pressure (only about 50 miles on tires, but have been sitting 3 years. They're in great shape, though). I towed 300 miles home, mostly at 65 mph, and bucking strong head/side winds most of the way, and got a tick over 15 mpg. It tows easily.
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Old 03-09-2003, 03:03 PM   #2
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Hurray!! :-)

:ola :ola :ola
I'll agree with you that it's a bit dirty. but, heck, it's soo cute! And interesting story... even if it can 't be confirmed. How much time to you have to fix it up before your first trip?

~ Melanie:ola
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Old 03-09-2003, 03:48 PM   #3
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Woo hoo!

Congratulations, Paul! It's a cute (dirty) orphan that really needed adopted. Yep... I've found that when I say "never," I end up eating my words. (Now where is a cute smiley icon with a foot in it's mouth?) :r

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Old 03-09-2003, 05:22 PM   #4
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Hi, Paul

Rules were made to be broken! (At least that's what my son used to tell me.)

Think of all the fun you're gonna have fixin' her up to your liking. And... you own a piece of history, too!

Congratulations.
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Old 03-09-2003, 05:26 PM   #5
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WTG PAUL!

Looks like there's a decent unit there for sure. It always amazes me when former owners let these beauties get so dirty. Have fun.:)
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Old 03-09-2003, 07:20 PM   #6
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Good Job

Wow, Paul, there sure is a lot of cute under that dirty....I can tell already....and you have the wood.

Love it, love it, love it....and so will you. Believe it or not, there is something fun about cleaning them up. It will greatly reward you with a twinkle and shine.
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Old 03-09-2003, 07:43 PM   #7
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I think it looks great, dirt and all. too bad the floor is gone under the shower, but other wise it looks cleanable. what broke. I see glass on the floor. hope it wasn't a window.
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Old 03-09-2003, 08:17 PM   #8
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Hi Paul
Looks like a great fixerupper.You will have fun with it.

If I recall I put my foot in my mouth more than once.;)

Coal Grime---I worked Underground for 30 years and good ole Coal paid my way in life.It washed off me so it will wash off the new unit.:wave
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Old 03-09-2003, 09:12 PM   #9
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So much to do, so little time...

So, when is my first outing in Osmo? Hmm... our family traditionally does a fund-raiser bike ride in early May, and we camp for the weekend. That may be pushing it, and we may have to forego the camping part this year. Our church is having a campout weekend the first part of June. That is a must, so my timeframe is limited. As soon as the weather allows, I'll be on it. Tomorrow, I'll call Scamp and order the various parts I need.

The bathroom, obviously, is going to get completely torn out and refitted. I'm hoping that the new Scamp molded bathroom floorpan will fit my rig. Otherwise, I'll have to make one. It already has the 2000 lb axle, instead of the 1200 lb one, so I don't think I'll need to change the axle. The torsion bar angle looks ok, I think, and it isn't spongey. The axle has the brake flanges, so it will be easy to add brakes. I'm going to redo all the cabinetry in oak, to accomodate a 3cube refrigerator, probably an air conditioner, and maybe a microwave.

The stuff you see on the floor is one of the light covers -- they are completely dry-rotted, and one fell off on the trip home. This camper has a 10-gallon fresh water tank, and what looks like a 30-gallon grey water tank. It's an electric-only water heater, looks like a 3-gallon. The water pump is there, and supposedly works. The rest of it I'll find out as I tear into it. There is no damage to the fiberglass, and all the windows operate. The door hinges are sagging, so that goes on tomorrow's order from Scamp.

Regarding the bathroom, I decided that if it were just me, I'd skip the bathroom, for the reasons I extoled earlier. However, I have a wife and teenage daughter, and if one of them were to have an unpleasant experience crossing a campground in the dark, I'd end up kicking myself for not providing safer facilities for them. So, bathroom it is! You may be thinking, "Hmm.. Paul, wife, daughter...that adds up to three people. That camper only has bedding for two." Our daughter has discovered the joys of sleeping in the back of the Jimmy. With the seat down, it makes a 3.5'x 6' bed, and with the blacked out windows, she has the privacy she didn't have in the camper with us. Incidentally, since this camper has the Deluxe interior, it has the 54" wide bed.
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Old 03-10-2003, 02:17 AM   #10
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...Looks Like Fun

Hey Paul... looks like a lot of fun ahead of you. I'm in the process of ripping out our front bunk area and adding a toilet room (no shower... at least yet). Your pix give me a pretty good idea of the dimensions I need to make a bathroom wall. I think I'll post on the 'Mods' forum to ask about black water tank placement. Anyway... I bet your as excited as I am to get out there campin'... hope you have a BLAST!- Dave on the the SW Oregon coast.
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Old 03-10-2003, 06:25 AM   #11
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good for you!

Great news Paul.

About those tires...for the small cost of two new ones I'd replace both since they have been sitting for more than 2 years. Rotate one of the replaced tires to a spare.

Happy camping.
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Old 03-10-2003, 06:40 AM   #12
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Congrats Paul!

The largest project starts with the first step.

You've taken the first step by purchasing a rig!

There's a lot of expertise here. Keep us posted with pictures and questions and we'll help!

Sorry about the floor under the bathroom. Since you said Scamp knew about the problem, did they give any advice on how to fix it?

I agree with Mike T. Since you know the tires have been sitting for a few years, you might want to replace them for piece of mind.

But hey, you'll be camping in your fiberglass wonder before you know it!
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And more congratulations !!

Thanks for the pictures and keep them coming...I really liked the view of the front end and the small vis-a-vis large front window. Obviously the bathroom was factory installed and they didn't just cobble it in an existing shell.

Do you think my wife will buy that excuse ? :r
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So, when is my first outing in Osmo?
Incidentally, since this camper has the Deluxe interior, it has the 54" wide bed.
That bed size is great. aren't you lucky.

Now this name Osmo? does it mean something?
or is that Town? :lol
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