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Old 01-11-2017, 06:35 AM   #57
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eggcamper propane

Eggcampers had option of propane, as my 2007 has it, but I rarely use the cooktop. I bought the camper at factory.
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:28 AM   #58
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The early year EggCampers did have a propane option but he discontinued it in later years. My 2011 did not and I added a propane heater. As fas as heating water, the op is trying to camp off grid, thus no electric. Propane is the only source for non electric sites other than solar.
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Yup, I understand that Jim. The idea I tossed out was to be able have both sources available but not having full blown LP tubing run in the trailer. Kind of like the connection you may have for a BBQ from the main tank. 10 minutes or so run time, full tank of hot water, disconnect and no idle LP in lines for those that don't trust or have it installed. Just food for thought .
Sorry, I did not read your last sentence about adding an auxiliary port for propane, but the EggCamper has a small electric water heater used in residential applications for point of use. an electric/propane heater like those in rv's would mean an expensive modification. Even a tankless water heater would be prohibitive. Best bet would be to run propane for a Wave type heater and propane stove. Then water could be heated for showers and heat would also be there.
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Old 01-11-2017, 01:51 PM   #60
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Yep - you guys hit the nail on the head!

This is weird but I really bought the EggCamper for the interior height - along with bed length! I actually prefer having propane. But this is the ONLY FGRV I can stand/sleep in in existence besides a 5.0TA. I love the EggCamper and its wide open space too! My wife and I were so set on NOT having the carpet strip in the ceiling, so it led up to a newer EggCamper only, which does not have propane. We got lucky when we found this one.

But I really don't mind propane in the rv, as I liked it in my old Casita. But to do that water heater mod - yes is major including cutting a hole in the side of the camper - which I dont want to do. I like that its so sealed! I guess if it were our "forever" camper, I would probably go that route, and add propane furnace, and maybe even a 2 way fridge. But that's too pricey knowing 1) we will move to a 5.0ta someday, and 2) it has everything we want when we have shore power - which is 80+% of the time!

Speaking of holes, I really wish they would have vented the black tank out the side wall higher up - just like they vented the sink with that little square louver - but higher! That would have been cool because there would have been NO holes in the roof besides the vent.

So anyway, I like the solar shower idea! When we boondock - it can be where there are no showers. That's why we like to have a hot shower. But, the hot water wont be there w/o a generator. The generator has advantages and solves all issues (except noise)

Anyway, yea - that's a decision for the future. Now I just want to do mods I know we want, and know the direction is solid (lift, bike rack, 15", vent, modified storage, etc.)

Speaking of storage....I was surfing one night stealing peoples ideas.....ha....I came across this guy that added another fresh water tank! I thought "awesome"! We didn't like the Egg's 16 gallon when our Casita had 25. So you know that storage area under the bed on the curb side that's useless cause you cant get to it? (I realize I could add outside access door but prefer not to cut the fiberglass wall). Well, why not add another water tank (or 2)!!! Tie them together with pex at floor level. When you add water to the main tank - they will all fill up at the same time! And they all drain at the same time as you use it! They will need to vent up top somehow, so this may requier a separate fill/vent cap on that side (uuggg - a hole.....ha). Just more wintertime food for thought.....
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Old 01-11-2017, 02:01 PM   #61
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... Tie them together with pex at floor level. When you add water to the main tank - they will all fill up at the same time! And they all drain at the same time as you use it! They will need to vent up top somehow, so this may requier a separate fill/vent cap on that side (uuggg - a hole.....ha). Just more wintertime food for thought.....
Since you would be connecting all the tanks together with a low pex water line, can't you likewise vent them all together with an interconnecting high pex air line? Seems like that should work.
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Since you would be connecting all the tanks together with a low pex water line, can't you likewise vent them all together with an interconnecting high pex air line? Seems like that should work.
Yes - I think that should work! I just need to figure out how to gt the line from one side of the RV to the other. The low line could tuck in the back wall/floor corner, but the vent line needs to stay high like you said. Maybe a way to get from one side to other without it looking too bad. It will be under the bed! Good idea! Thanks!
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The vent line doesn't need to stay high. The tap just needs to be high on the tank where the air is rather than low where the water is. Once the vent line comes out of the tank at a high location, the vent line itself can then be dropped down to the floor and run right beside the water line before needing to rising up again to go in near the top of the next tank. The air won't mind going up and down and up and down....
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The vent line doesn't need to be/stay high. The air tap just needs to be high on the tank where the air is rather than low where the water is. Once the vent line comes out of the tank at a high location, the vent line itself can then be dropped down to the floor and run right beside the water line before needing to rising up again to go into the top of the next tank. The air won't mind going up and down and up and down....
...unless the water gets into the low part of the crossover leg, maybe by sloshing while towing.

Can the vent be tapped high up in each tank, then be routed upwards before dropping down to the floor level to cross over to the other tank? That might help it resist water getting into the low crossover leg.

Regardless, it sounds like you would benefit from adding a little tee and drain valve on a low point of the crossover leg. Then you could either drain it or perhaps even blow it out to dry it out, whichever works best. Perhaps you could even route the "drain" leg down through the floor...
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Mike makes a good point. Air should be able to push past any water that splashes in the vent line, but it could be a problem come time to winterize. How about installing one of these Attwood marine fuel tank vents on each accessory water tank (I believe they are two-way so they would vent when both filling the tank and emptying)? Available in black or white.
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These are good ideas! Maybe while I have the roof vent out I could run a pex vent line up the wall between the inner and outer shell and back down the other side.... ha. Sounds crazy but could work! Not sure of the spacing between inner and outer shell yet.

I need to stop tho! My mind ideas are way ahead of my progress...ha! I like the mods so much I want another camper to use while I spend a year upgrading this one lol. Patience I guess!
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I've run a standard TV coaxial cable from the upper cabinet in the rear curbside corner down between the inner and outer shell and out that bottom corner weep hole to connect to an outside over-the-air TV antenna. So I know you could slip a vent tube at least that diameter between the walls. And I think vent tubing with at least 1/8" inside diameter should do the job if you decide to proceed with your additional fresh water tank mod.
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MaxxFan Install

Well, spring is coming! So the couple we know with the 21 Escape has a pole barn and we got free winter storage this year only (ha) for helping them wire the barn. Well my storage is about over (April 1st was the deal) so I decided its time to get the MaxxFan installed while its under roof and out of the weather. This took me 3 full nights and I'm not done yet! But I'm enjoying it doing it!

First order of things was to get a way to work up there without putting my 250lbs on the roof. I built a small work platform hanging from the rafters. It worked pretty well and held my weight fine! Then I removing the interior trim ring, and cut the wires. Then up to the top.....

I'm not here to knock the EggCamper, but why anybody would put that tiny fan in there originally is beyond me. I bet if a MaxxFan was an $250 option would be ordered on every one! Anyway....
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Next order was to pull off the old vent all the screws!!!! But I took the screws out then started cutting with a knife. I also cut on the inside where more sealant was. After a LOT of cutting and a little prying I was able to get a corner to come up. From there I was able to cut/pry cut/pry till it finally came off!

Next order of business was to clean off all the old sealant. That took ALL DAY with a plastic scraper, goo gone, finger nails, more scraping. It was stuck on there like you couldn't believe! Maybe 6 hours later it was finally done. That was a horrible task. After that I countersunk the old holes a little bit to avoid future cracking. Then I filled the holes completly with butyl tape.

I also drilled new holes (the 4 corners old holes lined up so I was able to reuse those - but the others needed new. Also countersunk the new holes. I bought 3/4 butyl tape from Amazon and realized my flange was 1.25" wide. So I decided to buy 1.5" tape and have an entire flange seal with one strip. I applied the tape to the bottom of the new flange, put the 4 corner screws thru and started to tighten. Then put in the rest of the screws and tighten the heck out of all of them!
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While I was at it the old vent cap had to go! Those things get brittle. I bought a different kind that is supposed to be unbreakable, and not get brittle. Also, the old one was more sharp corners like a hockey puck and the new one is more dome shaped so I should get better mpg.....ha. So while I was doing this roof vent upgrade, it was time to replace this black water vent cap too. I have to admit, after taking the old one off and seeing the new one fit on the smooth surface - I decided I was NOT removing all the old sealant outside the base....ha!

So I cleaned up the seal area, put on more butyl, and reinstalled the new cap. After the butyl squished out the next day I removed the 3 screws out of the upper cap only, put sealant between the new base and the vent pipe, put sealant on the 3 spots where the 2 caps touch and reinstalled the screws.

More to come in a few days on the final sealant applied (flanges and screw heads) for both the MaxxFan, and pipe vent - along with fiberglass trimming to get the vent to close without hitting the EggCamper center rib.......
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