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Old 07-02-2015, 10:20 AM   #1
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July 4th

This morning I read that a number of people in San Diego were asked why we're celebrating the 4th of July. Interestingly (and sadly) people duid not know. 'The day Abraham Lincoln signed the Declaration of Independence. The day we won the Civil War' Happily some one sent me the following about the signers of the Declaration of Independence how they sacrificed, fortune, family and life.

Thank you Tom,

The 4th of July!!


Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men
who signed the Declaration of Independence? Their story. . .

Five signers were captured by the British as traitors,
and tortured before they died.

Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.

Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army;
another had two sons captured.

Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or
hardships of the Revolutionary War.

They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes,
and their sacred honor.

What kind of men were they?

Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists.

Eleven were merchants.

Nine were farmers and large plantation owners;
men of means, well educated.

But they signed the Declaration of Independence
knowing full well that the penalty would be death if
they were captured.

Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and
trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the
British Navy. He sold his home and properties to
pay his debts, and died in rags.

Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British
that he was forced to move his family almost constantly.
He served in the Congress without pay, and his family
was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him,
and poverty was his reward.

Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer,
Walton , Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.

At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that
the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson
home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General
George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed,
and Nelson died bankrupt.

Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed.
The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.

John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying.
Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill
were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests
and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his
children vanished.

So, take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and
silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid.

Remember: freedom is never free!

Or as we say in in New Hampshire, Life Free or Die.

First you need to believe something and second you need to stand for it.
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Thanks! It doesn't hurt to be reminded of those who came before us. Their sacrifice was extraordinary.
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Old 07-02-2015, 02:17 PM   #3
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This story has been making the rounds for years and is - at least - a sanitized and simplified version of events. Just do an internet search.
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This story has been making the rounds for years and is - at least - a sanitized and simplified version of events. Just do an internet search.
Jack,

I've seen it a few times over the years but it's a good reminder particularly considering the state of the nation.
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:12 PM   #5
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Thanks, Norm. I've enjoyed your posts so much, especially being a 2 year newbee to the 'sport'. I don't know if you are near your NH home these days but I'm trying the 'Boondocker' arrangement, staying with a very nice couple in Lowell, MA in a couple of weeks on my way to Maine to meet up with my kids in Boothbay.

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Jack,

You drive right by us. We're just off I-95. You'd be welcome to stop by. I'll PM you our address and phone number.
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Thank you for reminding us of the sacrifices that those Patriots endured . This should be in every history lesson .
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The Rest of the Story AKA Another version

Read it here. snopes.com: The Price They Paid: Fates of the Signers of the Declaration of Independence
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I have also seen this before, except that the group allegedly asked always changes to suit the moment, and is usually selected to criticize something.


Short of asking only foreign visitiors (legal and otherwise) that question, I doubt if the majority of residents of San Diego, a Navy town for almost 100 years, would be ignorant of our history to that extent.


In short.... The group allegedly asked.... Balderdash.
Please post a reference to the source.


And read the Snopes article referred to in post #8 about the truths and mistruths in the listing.
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I have also seen this before, except that the group allegedly asked always changes to suit the moment, and is usually selected to criticize something.


Short of asking only foreign visitiors (legal and otherwise) that question, I doubt if the majority of residents of San Diego, a Navy town for almost 100 years, would be ignorant of our history to that extent.


In short.... The group allegedly asked.... Balderdash.
Please post a reference to the source.


And read the Snopes article referred to in post #8 about the truths and mistruths in the listing.
I saw interviews of the same ilk on the news today, it looked like a typical cross section off the street to me. I would bet that less than 25% of a random survey of the U.S, Congress could give a simple definition of Federalism as it applies to the U.S.
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Accounts of what happened to the signers vary. One thing I do know for sure: far too many "Americans" are merely people who happen to live in America, but don't know the first thing about it. Those man on the street interviews they like to do on talk shows always have the audience laughing. I've never found it funny -- just tragic. It makes me fear for my grandchildren, living in an America full of the ignorant and misinformed.

Worst of all, they could care less.


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Not knowing what a Federalist might be is a far cry from not knowing that July 4th is Independence Day.


As it turns out, at least as late as 2012 in the Golden State, there was still a governmental knowledge test required to move from the 8th to the 9th grade.


Man-on-the-street interviews are usually produced for entertainment value, not news value, more Balderdash...
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Not knowing what a Federalist might be is a far cry from not knowing that July 4th is Independence Day.


Man-on-the-street interviews are usually produced for entertainment value, not news value, more Balderdash...
Those are sure and true statements, of course TV news in general would conform to that last one!
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I have also seen this before, except that the group allegedly asked always changes to suit the moment, and is usually selected to criticize something.

Short of asking only foreign visitiors (legal and otherwise) that question, I doubt if the majority of residents of San Diego, a Navy town for almost 100 years, would be ignorant of our history to that extent.

In short.... The group allegedly asked.... Balderdash.
Please post a reference to the source.

And read the Snopes article referred to in post #8 about the truths and mistruths in the listing.
Bob,

The real point is that the in signers were people who were typically doing pretty well under English rule. They decided to risk their privileged positions in society for the benefit of the whole. A courageous act, in retrospect, important to the world. The details are interesting but not as critical as the overall event.

Very impressive when you compare it to people who serve for personal gain.

Here's your reference.

ยป VIDEO: Citizens Don’t Know What Country We Seceded From In 1776 Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! It is ridiculous that everyone doesn't know the source of the fourth of july.

We spend a real fortune on education and the how our country came to be is important, really
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