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Old 02-17-2019, 06:54 AM   #57
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Document Fees are all profit

Like auto dealers, the "document fee" is nothing but added profit. Aside from the Registry fees for a plate and inspection, the rest is profit. Now ask yourself, what other retailer charges you to write up a receipt? That is what their "document" fee is. If they tell you it is a loan origination fee, walk away. There's plenty of places to get a loan without paying fees that in some cases can be up to $400.00







That story aside: When negotiating for a vehicle purchase with a dealer I ALWAYS ask what the "out the door" price is. If they want to price the vehicle for one dollar and charge $49,000 for the dealer prep and "document fee" plus environmental fee and fuel surcharge or whatever, that is ok as long as I like the total price. The total price is the only thing I am concerned about. I don't care how they do their book keeping.[/QUOTE]
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Old 02-17-2019, 07:12 AM   #58
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Not exactly 100% profit. Dealers perform certain services you would do yourself if you bought from a private party, completing and filing title and registration documents, mostly, and sometimes loan paperwork. So there is a marginal labor cost.

But it's part and parcel of the whole overhead of the business, so separating out that particular service is simply a means to squeeze additional margin from the unaware.

I agree with the previous poster. Any add-on fees that go back to the dealer and not to a 3rd party (taxes, actual title and registration fees) should be evaluated as part of the purchase price. I don't care what they call it.

Suddenly curious- never thought to check... is the doc fee subject to state sales tax? Depends on the state, of course, but just wondering...
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Old 02-17-2019, 08:56 AM   #59
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I don't believe the doc fee is included in the taxable portion of the transaction. In TN the state and local sales tax is darn close to 10%.

I have see doc fees as much as $1200.00 long ago. But Dealers are getting "hep" to the reluctance of customers to pay the fees and so they are using labels like doc fee, destination charge, registration fee, prep fee, etc.

But once you, as Gary noted, ask for an "on the road' price and negotiate using that, then it is just a matter of the dealership backing out fees when they write it up. Which is important to them since they may not have to pay taxes or collect taxes on such fees, which give them a tad more money in their pockets.
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:47 PM   #60
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We had a great experience with RV World in Denver. No surprises. Drove out from California to purchase because local dealer tried to pull the “doc fee, prep fee, no negotiating” poop.
Is your local dealer S.C.A.T.T?
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Old 02-21-2019, 05:46 AM   #61
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Jon, do not know what S.C.A.T.T. is.
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Old 02-21-2019, 12:48 PM   #62
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It's a California dealer:
https://www.scattrecreation.com/defa...avel%20trailer
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Old 02-21-2019, 06:53 PM   #63
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Yes that's right. I was basically wondering if it was S.C.A.T.T recreation with the Doc and Prep fees. Trying to get an idea if that's who I want my hard earned dollars to go to. I'm currently looking at a dealer in British Colombia who has quoted me an out the door price which includes the import/export fees and paperwork. I will go there and they will show me the trailer, do a walkthrough, do some training, etc. Then, I will come back to the US and they will hook up and drive the trailer to the US side of the border. They can't offer financing so they aren't even trying that, and they aren't even charging tax. That will be paid directly to the state where I plan to register.



It's just a question of do I want to do business with someone local, or do I want to drive 16 hrs to Canada and take my first vacation in the trailer on the way home. I'm sure there are many great things to see on the way down through Washington and Oregon back to California. Also the trailer is on the lot in BC vs having to wait to order one and have it sent to the local dealer in California. That can be good and bad because I would get it faster but have to take whatever is on the trailer and install anything else I want (solar, etc) later.
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Old 02-21-2019, 11:09 PM   #64
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Jon, the unit I just bought has very few imperfections, and nothing major. Everything simply works, and well. You may need to take bedding and possibly cookware in addition to personal items and maybe a few tools. The company you buy it from will probably have all the camping supplies you may need. Just be certain to take a brake controller.

I have yet to encounter a warranty issue so I cannot say from experience but it appears from what others have said that BF would vibe willing to work with local RV service companies, other than a local dealership, to address warranty issues. I have no intention of driving 4 hours to the dealership that sold me the unit to address warranty issues.
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Old 04-04-2019, 05:27 PM   #65
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I just found an imperfection in the table; the edge was coming unglued. I sent a photo and within an hour Grant replied that a new table would be sent. Top notch company in my book.
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Old 04-04-2019, 06:09 PM   #66
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My wife’s dream trailer is a 25 ft Bigfoot RQ . It is a beautiful trailer and one side of me says too expensive and the other says your old so go for it
We want a trailer that we can plan a trip and just go instead of constantly having to be concerned about what will fail or need repair next .
Well it’s fun to dream and imagine even though it probably will never be reality
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Old 04-04-2019, 06:44 PM   #67
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With approx. 25-30 years of camping ahead of us....a garage to store it in.....and the price we paid ( less than we expected), it was a case of "this will be the last trailer we own." Everything depreciates, but.....I have no doubt that we will be pleasantly surprised when it comes time to sell....many miles down the road....that we will still receive a pretty penny for our 25RQ.

And...Grant...the production manager for Bigfoot is everything and that. I can't imagine the emails, phone calls, etc...he receives on a daily basis. But unlike many business people we all know, he responds to everyone....even when he is on holidays.

It's a no brainer.....go with Bigfoot.
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Old 04-05-2019, 07:15 AM   #68
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Preserve that gel coat gloss. Keep it in that garage when not in use and wax it twice a year. Day/night sunshine/darkness cycles are what cause that dreaded window seal creep. Then repack the wheel bearings once a year. Replace the tires with new fresh date code tires every six years. Reseal all of the roof openings every ten years. The sealant will dry out. Leave the refrigerator plugged in all of the time to keep the fluid circulating and prevent gunk from settling in the fluid system and stopping it up. The trailer will last for 50 years.
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Old 04-05-2019, 08:53 AM   #69
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Listen to Bruce, follow his advise. However...I will be using BTS cleaner and protectant on my BF fiberglass trailer. I use wax on the Casita. It will be interesting to see if there is a difference in appearance.
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Old 04-05-2019, 02:12 PM   #70
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Leave the refrigerator plugged in all of the time to keep the fluid circulating and prevent gunk from settling in the fluid system and stopping it up. The trailer will last for 50 years.
Is this really necessary? I've never heard that before.
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