Just FYI folks posting trailers for sale - Fiberglass RV


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 09-28-2014, 07:11 PM   #1
Junior Member
 
Name: Glenna
Trailer: In the market
Illinois
Posts: 7
Just FYI folks posting trailers for sale

Nothing against you smokers out there but if you are posting your trailer for sale and you are a smoker then please don't post that it is smoke free.
Those of us that don't smoke or are allergic to can smell that stuff as soon as we walk in the door (especially if it is a camper with fabric or carpet on walls) and to the smokers that want a camper it usually doesn't make any difference. Same goes with pets! Lets tell it like it is!
__________________

__________________
ILIKETOMOVEIT60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2014, 10:04 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Name: Terry
Trailer: 1996 Casita Freedom Deluxe 17 ft
Colorado
Posts: 392
I agree. The olfactory sense of most smokers is usually pretty useless and I'm sure they don't realize how easy it is to pick up on the smell. I remember when I was looking at condos and I'd walk into some and then immediately turn around and walk back out because it was so gross. There isn't enough air freshener in the world to hide that odor.
__________________

__________________
Terry G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2014, 11:09 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Jon in AZ's Avatar
 
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 5,565
Registry
If a seller is lying about something so obvious, it would make me very suspicious about what else they may be concealing. In a way, it's a blessing in disguise. At least you are warned.
__________________
Jon in AZ is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2014, 11:59 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
sarahspins's Avatar
 
Name: Sarah
Trailer: 1984 13' Scamp named "Ramblin Rose"
Texas
Posts: 159
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry G View Post
I agree. The olfactory sense of most smokers is usually pretty useless and I'm sure they don't realize how easy it is to pick up on the smell.
This, exactly! Most have absolutely no clue that the smell they simply can't detect anymore is so horrifically overwhelming to non-smokers. But since they can't smell it they think they can get away with it - but they can't.

That being said, even nice and seemingly honest sellers can miss things - I'm not convinced that the people I bought my scamp from intentionally misled me about any part of it's condition (and they were thankfully, non-smokers, so that wasn't a problem), but I do think they were simply blissfully ignorant about some of it's bigger issues (water damage, axle condition, etc). Honestly most issues have been expected with the age of the trailer and are little more than annoying and time consuming - and they wouldn't have necessarily been dealbreakers, but I would have certainly negotiated the price down. That's my fault though, and a lesson learned for the future if I ever find myself in the position of purchasing another 30 year old camper
__________________
sarahspins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2014, 01:45 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
Borrego Dave's Avatar
 
Name: Dave
Trailer: Casita SD17 2006
California
Posts: 2,923
Interesting thread, but I do have a few comments for prospective buyers of trailers, cars or houses. If your looking at buying an older house you can just about bet it's been smoked in. Many things can be done in a house to remedy any odors. Not so much with cars or trailers. I don't put plastic on my vehicle seats so there is no wear for the next person, wear happens and it's mine and when I should decide to sell it.....well it's used. You can pretty much tell from a burn mark or two if it's been smoked in. As far as looking for a trailer, the seller may very well not know if it's been smoked or had pets in it. Everybodys nose is different and we all pick up on different odors. I'm the 3rd owner of my SD, the 2nd owner, non smokers, had it for two years and never used it because of health issuses. I have no idea of the original buyer. I smoke and my wife does on occation, but we have never smoke in the SD, gee, not even in the house for that matter. When I should decide to sell mine I can and will say there has never had pets or been smoked in to my knowledge. Any honest seller can only say what they know to be true to them. Being it was in 1964 or 5 that the first bad comments were made about smoking came out it only stands to reason that any older trailer probably was smoked in.
I would certainly be ticked if I drove a bunch of miles to look at a possible purchase only to be overcome by odors when told there wre none.
So I guess the only reason I'm even replying to this is because it seems by the comments I'm reading, they come across that sellers are lying to buyers. Just don't think that's the case in the vast majority of sale ads.
Just my two cents worth and YMVV
__________________
Borrego Dave is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2014, 08:32 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
Jon in AZ's Avatar
 
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 5,565
Registry
Just FYI folks posting trailers for sale

Good points, Dave and Sarah. Not all misrepresentations (maybe that's a kinder word) are intentional. Less culpable, perhaps, but still a warning to caution.

Most common I see is not about smoking or pets, but weight. So many ads claim "under 1000 pounds."
__________________
Jon in AZ is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2014, 09:01 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Name: kootenai girl
Trailer: 2004 Casita Liberty 17
British Columbia
Posts: 1,351
That's so true about the weight Dave. My husband and I laugh that there must have been a special production line of extra light Bolers as some of them weigh only 600 lbs
As most people don't weigh their trailers this myth just keeps getting handed down.
__________________
kootenaigirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2014, 09:25 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
Bob Miller's Avatar
 
Name: Bob
Trailer: 1973 Hunter Compact II
California
Posts: 7,912
I used to do RV inspections as a side line and, as a result have been inside almost 100 motorhomes and trailers that were being offered for sale and it's pretty easy to draw a line between seller naiveté and, basically, fraudulent claims.

I was primarily inspecting units that were from 15 to 30 years old at the time and can say that more than 1/2 of those sellers were intentionally trying to hide or misrepresent issues. I heard "We never used that" so many times that I learned that it usually really meant "It doesn't work".

And I can't even remember how many rigs I inspected that reeked of different kinds of air sprays trying to cover up cigarette smoking odor.

And, sorry smokers, just not smoking inside a trailer doesn't make them smoke odor free. When someone smokes outside and then comes inside and sits in the dinette, it leaves a permanent signature as the odor is transferred from clothing to upholstery, that night the smoke order is transferred from hair to bedding etc., etc. "Not Smoked In" sort of becomes a semantic bypass when the buyer steps inside, and turns around and leaves.
__________________
Bob Miller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2014, 09:26 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
Bob Miller's Avatar
 
Name: Bob
Trailer: 1973 Hunter Compact II
California
Posts: 7,912
Weightlessness

Quote:
Originally Posted by kootenaigirl View Post
That's so true about the weight Dave. My husband and I laugh that there must have been a special production line of extra light Bolers as some of them weigh only 600 lbs
As most people don't weigh their trailers this myth just keeps getting handed down.

And it doesn't help when the seller is just quoting the weight from the mfg's sticker/ literature of 10+ years ago.
__________________
Bob Miller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2014, 09:36 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
Name: None
Trailer: None
None
Posts: 2,730
I like to smoke an occasional cigar while sitting and watching a campfire . I do not smoke in our trailer and I consider our trailer non smoking yet I have had others disagree , believing if I smoke and enter the trailer at any time "The trailer has been subject to smoking" Sometimes it's not a lie , it's just people have different definitions / standards for the same thing
__________________
steve dunham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2014, 09:53 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
Jon in AZ's Avatar
 
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 5,565
Registry
Just FYI folks posting trailers for sale

I will confess to being misled by false weight claims when I bought our Scamp. At the time we had a Toyota Sienna, no tow package, class I hitch, rated 2000/200#. Based on ad claims, I thought I had capacity to spare. Toyota dealer actually talked me out of a tranny cooler. Tranny overheated on the first long grade into CA. Electronic nannies prevented catastrophe, but there were some tense moments.

Wish I had spent more time here before that trip. 👍
__________________
Jon in AZ is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2014, 10:32 AM   #12
Senior Member
 
Name: Ray
Trailer: 21' Escape - former owner of 17' "other brand."
Florida
Posts: 699
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Miller View Post
I heard "We never used that" so many times that I learned that it usually really meant "It doesn't work".
Reminds me of when buying a used car and the seller says the AC "just needs a charge." To me, this automatically means the AC doesn't work, or it would have been charged before putting the car up for sale.
__________________
Ray N is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2014, 11:07 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
Bobbie Mayer's Avatar
 
Name: Bobbie
Trailer: 2011 Escape 15A
Washington
Posts: 3,236
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by steve dunham View Post
I like to smoke an occasional cigar while sitting and watching a campfire . I do not smoke in our trailer and I consider our trailer non smoking yet I have had others disagree , believing if I smoke and enter the trailer at any time "The trailer has been subject to smoking" Sometimes it's not a lie , it's just people have different definitions / standards for the same thing
Maybe a good question to ask of a seller is, "Do you smoke?" If he says, "Yes, but not in the trailer" someone with a sensitive nose can simply pass that trailer by, someone less particular might still want to see (smell?) it. I don't like the smell of clothing after sitting at a campfire, but that kind of odor doesn't tend to stick to the furnishings like cigarette or cigar smoke does. If the clothes you smoked in sat in the trailer for some time the odor could linger.

Another point is that I could open up all the windows and air the cushions and wash the bedding and show a trailer with no odor- but if you really want to know, close up all the windows and sit there inside for a bit, preferably letting it warm up.

Same goes for pets, I'm sure my trailer will never be totally free of corgi fur, but I could clean it up for a sale and possibly fool someone into thinking there had been no pets in it.
__________________
Bobbie Mayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2014, 10:40 AM   #14
Senior Member
 
Name: Darral
Trailer: Scamp Standard 13' 2010
Tennessee
Posts: 1,443
DO NOT believe WEIGHTS "told" to you unless they (like myself) have the weigh receipts. I've kept mine that I retrieved from our local CO-OP after personally weighing it. Scamp told me they weighed one like mine and it came in at apx 1400. I weighed my new Scamp and it was 1740!! So technically, I would have told people their given weight if I was selling it (and not intentionally been lying). But now you've seen it in writing, my 13' fully-loaded Scamp less furnace weighs 1740 lbs without any cargo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon in AZ View Post
I will confess to being misled by false weight claims when I bought our Scamp. At the time we had a Toyota Sienna, no tow package, class I hitch, rated 2000/200#. Based on ad claims, I thought I had capacity to spare. Toyota dealer actually talked me out of a tranny cooler. Tranny overheated on the first long grade into CA. Electronic nannies prevented catastrophe, but there were some tense moments.

Wish I had spent more time here before that trip. 👍
__________________

__________________
Darral T. is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Just a thank you folks D Davis Problem Solving | Owners Helping Owners 13 03-08-2012 07:53 AM
Just some reminders for folks coming to Oregon! Donna D. Oregon Gatherings 11 07-11-2009 11:25 PM
FYI getting mold out of cushion covers nick c Care and Feeding of Molded Fiberglass Trailers 3 08-21-2007 11:57 AM
FYI on Oregon Campfires Donna D. Camping, Campout Reports 1 08-16-2007 09:33 AM

» Upcoming Events
No events scheduled in
the next 465 days.
» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:10 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.