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01-06-2015, 01:29 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1983 13 ft Scamp
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Keep drinking water from freezing.
Is there any way to keep drinking water from freezing with out adding alcohol or keeping in a warm place?
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01-06-2015, 01:42 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Carl
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0TA
Florida
Posts: 1,694
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Water freezes at 32 degrees F, 0 degrees. Adding any substance that will create a solution to the water (salt, sugar, alcohol, etc.) will lower its freezing temperature. So the short answer to you question is NO.
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01-06-2015, 02:27 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: 2018, 21ft escape— 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie
NW Wisconsin
Posts: 4,500
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We put plastic gallon milk jugs of room temperature water in a good cooler along with a couple of gallon jugs filled with "HOT" water . Water did not freeze after 48 hours at temps near zero F .I suppose one could fill all the jugs with HOT water but I am not fond of drinking hot water
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01-06-2015, 10:53 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler 1984
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin K
Is there any way to keep drinking water from freezing with out adding alcohol or keeping in a warm place?
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01-07-2015, 01:05 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
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Take it from someone who spends a lot of time trying to keep water from freezing in her back pack while working on a ski hill, those thin plastic water bottles are the worst! They freeze way to fast even when stuffed inside a back pack. You need to use something with insulated walls to contain the water - a large Insulated Thermos's such as this one works well - you can get in small or large sizes. And keeping it in a cooler without ice in it also helps.
An old style large thermos drink cooler might also do the trick. You can find them in thrift stores frequently.
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01-07-2015, 05:54 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Carl
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0TA
Florida
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So far, all the "solutions" posted involve putting the drinking water in a warm place (in a cooler with one bottle filled with hot water or in a thermos inside a cooler. Given long enough time and cold enough temperatures, the drinking water will still freeze, these procedures will only slow the process as insulation can only go so far. Very good solutions to keeping water in its liquid state longer, but the OP did specify " keeping in a warm place." Personally I like the idea of adding alcohol to it, preferably Scotch! :LOL
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01-07-2015, 06:18 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Ron
Trailer: 2015 Oliver Legacy Elite II - Hull #69
South Carolina
Posts: 356
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPW
Personally I like the idea of adding alcohol to it, preferably Scotch! :LOL
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+1.
The more you do it, the less you'll end up caring about freezing.
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01-07-2015, 07:02 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Tom
Trailer: Scamp 16
Michigan
Posts: 864
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPW
Personally I like the idea of adding alcohol to it, preferably Scotch! :LOL
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Don't know why, this just popped into my head..
"The other day I got invited to a party, but I stayed home instead, just me and my buddy Johnny Walker, and his brothers Black and Red, and we drank alone.."
Tom
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01-07-2015, 01:00 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPW
Very good solutions to keeping water in its liquid state longer, but the OP did specify " keeping in a warm place." Personally I like the idea of adding alcohol to it, preferably Scotch! :LOL
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Agree Carl but my alcohol of choose on the mountain is Whiskey - no water added!! & BTW the OP also did ask about solutions other than alcohol "or" keeping in a warm place.
As you say water is water it freezes nothing will stop it .... only slow it. Heck I had water freeze almost solid inside a thermos in less than 6 hours last year while working at Lake Louise - even though the thermos was also inside my back pack and stuck inside a very large mitten! and had other extra clothing wrapped around it. But then again it was -33 C for most of that day & started out at -42C We radio down to the base and asked if someone would bring us some drinkable water - the party at the base brought us some water in plastic bottles that had been stored in a warm cabin - by the time he got to the top of the mountain they had already turned to slushy's!
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01-07-2015, 01:01 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomK
Don't know why, this just popped into my head..
"The other day I got invited to a party, but I stayed home instead, just me and my buddy Johnny Walker, and his brothers Black and Red, and we drank alone.."
Tom
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Dang must be a good one, not available in my country!
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01-07-2015, 02:05 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2005 Casita Spirit Deluxe 17 ft (was 2003 16 ft Scamp)
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Keep water from freezing
Hold water next to chest and wrap arms around it. When tired, drink it.
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01-07-2015, 02:39 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
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Since a cooler is supposed to keep cold food cold, why couldn't you put your bottled water in a cooler to keep it from freezing? One of those el-cheapo syrofoam coolers may be the best. If you leave it outside it may, but perhaps not inside your tug...
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01-07-2015, 03:53 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
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It would help to have a little context on this question. Under what conditions and for how long are you looking to keep the water liquid?
Adding thermal mass (as in putting it in a cooler or in a car) will slow the process, as will putting in a pre-warmed object, but given enough time and/or cold enough temperatures, it will eventually freeze, absent a source of heat input. Keeping the water moving would also do it, I suppose, though I don't know how you would accomplish that, which merely involves a different kind of energy input. That's why they have bubblers around boats in the winter.
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01-07-2015, 04:39 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
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Bury it below the frost line?
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01-07-2015, 05:50 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Carl
Trailer: 2014 16 scamp side dinette/Rav4 V6 Tow pkg.
Pennsylvania
Posts: 578
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Bury it and fill the hole with sawdust. Carl
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01-07-2015, 06:11 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: 2018, 21ft escape— 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie
NW Wisconsin
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When ice fishing we put our beer /pop in a nylon net sack ,drill a hole in the ice and lower the sack under the ice. (Attach a rope to the sack before lowering below ice)
Beer /pop stays cold but does not freeze even at 30 bellow zero . Secret is to camp close to a lake
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01-07-2015, 06:38 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
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The reason I mentioned the styrofoam cooler, is we use that same kind of thing to keep hose bibs from freezing here in PDX. Sometimes down into the "teens" for more than a week. I've yet to have a problem (knock wood).
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Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
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01-08-2015, 06:32 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Tom
Trailer: Scamp 16
Michigan
Posts: 864
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Old School Method Still the Best?
There is one sure method to carry water or a liquid no matter how cold it gets. We discovered the merits of Bota Bags for carrying 1 to 2 quarts of water when deer hunting in the north woods of MI. I remember one trip in Dec when the temps hit -30 degrees. Nothing else worked.
We fill them with warm water and carry them under our coat. Body heat keeps them from freezing. It is silent, no sloshing noises, and it gets smaller the more you drink. It conforms to your body shape, nothing to poke you. The design is centuries old and derives from Basque goat herders in Spain.
I'm thinking it might make a good way to bring your wine to pot luck dinners at Egg Rallys. Nothing to break, spill, or carry in your hands. Hmm...
Article:
Bota Bags | RetroSki
Tom
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