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Old 09-29-2014, 02:29 PM   #15
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I disagree, you must have had condensation running off the windows.
Never seen this even once...., condensation on the windows(cold surface) yes, but never on the ratfur which is insulated with reflextix.

As you say...
Easy to eliminate most condensation by simply keeping the roof vent open whenever the heat is on.
I'm not saying that everybody will experience a soaked shirt experience. That depends on too many factors - how cold is it outside? How warm is it inside? How many people are in the camper? Is cooking taking place in the camper? Is the stove propane or electric? That all makes a difference.

What I am saying is that any time you have warm, moist air come in contact with a cold surface, you will get condensation. And, 1/4" of reflectix and rat fur is not enough insulation to stop that process.

And, no, I'm not talking here about condensation off the windows, although you are correct that they are a major source of it.
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Old 09-29-2014, 05:05 PM   #16
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I'm not saying that everybody will experience a soaked shirt experience. That depends on too many factors - how cold is it outside? How warm is it inside? How many people are in the camper? Is cooking taking place in the camper? Is the stove propane or electric? That all makes a difference.

What I am saying is that any time you have warm, moist air come in contact with a cold surface, you will get condensation. And, 1/4" of reflectix and rat fur is not enough insulation to stop that process.

And, no, I'm not talking here about condensation off the windows, although you are correct that they are a major source of it.
Paul, not denying your experience but we have now spent about 1,000 nights in our Scamp all over the country at all times of the year. We also cook breakfast every morning in the trailer. We have never experienced wet walls on the Scamp's fabric. Certainly we have had plenty of heavy condensation on the windows which usually wipe dry.
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Norm -- My point exactly -- how much it happens depends on a lot of factors. You have two people in a 16' Scamp, with your style of food prep, and your preferred interior temperature, and it doesn't pose a problem for you.

We had three people and a dog in a 13' front-bath, which has about half the main-cabin space, the ladies in my life are cold-blooded in the morning, and we cook potatoes for breakfast. We had problems with condensation.

Our original Scamp cushions had velour upholstery with vinyl on the back. We found that in cold weather, if we put our hand between the cushion and the wall, it was often soaked back there, and not just under the windows.

Anyway, the point here is not Scamp-bashing. The point is that high production of humidity in a low-insulation, low volume, low airflow space is a perfect scenario for condensation issues. And, the answer is adequate air exchange.

We now have a 4-wide teardrop (just two of us now), and condensation can be a BIG problem if we don't provide ventilation. We run the MaxxAir fan at night, and that solves it. We also find that it is much warmer to sleep in a cold space with low humidity than to sleep in a damp, clammy space that is warmer.
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we cook potatoes for breakfast.
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It's not a meal without potatoes.................LOL

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Old 09-30-2014, 12:23 PM   #20
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Our original Scamp cushions had velour upholstery with vinyl on the back. We found that in cold weather, if we put our hand between the cushion and the wall, it was often soaked back there, and not just under the windows.

Anyway, the point here is not Scamp-bashing. The point is that high production of humidity in a low-insulation, low volume, low airflow space is a perfect scenario for condensation issues. And, the answer is adequate air exchange.


I think a lot of what you have experienced has to do with location and time of year. I have a girlfriend who moved out to the Wet Coast a couple of years ago and she says that she still can not get over the feeling that the sheets on her bed at home feel damp every time she gets into bed at night - difference in humidity here vs where she lived prior. I grew up on the wet coast so I don't notice it, sheets feel dry to me.

The dampness between the cushions and the fiberglass they sit on (and to some extent the walls they press up against & close proximity to cold bare fiberglass) is a common problem here on the wet coast and many of us have taken a page from the boating world and use a product called Hypervent under the bed. It is not a problem restricted to only trailers with rat fur though! The condensation is caused by the warm bodies in the bed on top of the cold fiberglass the cushions sit on. Adding the venting under the bedding and Window/Maxx covers to the rear side windows on my Scamp to allow the windows to stay open even in the rain did a lot to reduced the issue of condensation build up at night in my trailer. Although I like the others have never felt the rat fur located in an open areas of the trailer to be damp regardless of how much condensation may be on the windows - only in the areas you suggest - behind or under cushions close to cold fiberglass.
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