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Old 08-20-2015, 02:02 PM   #29
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The original owner and developer of the Snoozy used to make airplane parts and boats . I've been up on the roof of the Snoozy and it is very strong .Will it come apart in 10 years I don't know but it certainly seems strong enough . That is not to say it won't get some spider cracks in the gelcoat it might.
Things to like about Snoozy
1-cassette toilet for a weekend fine longer then that goes to a bigger black tank.
2-8ft beam wide stance wheels outside if one gets a blowout it should not affect the fiberglass body .
3-35 gallon water 30 gallon grey water
4-bigger bath area same a larger Escapes
5-Queen bed and large couch
6-rear entry door for putting in bikes etc.
7-headroom 6ft 4 in .

Things i like about Casita
1-propane better for boondocking Can be added to Snoozy
2-proven camper over many years although Snoozy has been in business for over 3years
3-Good resale although i think all fiberglass RV's hold their own .
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Old 08-21-2015, 02:44 PM   #30
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"There are those who believe that all change is improvement, if you are one of them, buy the Lil Snoozy."
To which I might reply, "There are those who say that if it was good enough for your grandfather it should be good enough for you. If you are one of them, buy a stick-built."

My point was that the technology used on the Lil Snoozy is not a new and untested technology. It is, in fact, older than chopper gun, but is more expensive, and less forgiving to process error.

Chopper gun is simple, cheap, and harder to do wrong. That doesn't mean it's better. It's also weaker per unit mass and less resilient than mat or cloth vacuum infusion.

Engineering is the art of trade offs with consequences. You pays your money and you takes your choice.
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Old 08-21-2015, 07:18 PM   #31
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To which I might reply, "There are those who say that if it was good enough for your grandfather it should be good enough for you. If you are one of them, buy a stick-built."
I take it then that you don't think I am the Luddite which you seem to imply by the rest of your text!
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Old 08-22-2015, 06:18 AM   #32
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Just a note to the original poster...if/when you come to SC to visit the snoozy factory you'll be less than 20 miles from my house and I'd be more than happy to let you visit my 16' Casita. This, of course, depends on my being here. I'll be camp hosting in Maryland for the month of October. PM me if you'd be interested.

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Old 08-22-2015, 09:50 AM   #33
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simple, cheap, and harder to do wrong. That doesn't mean it's better.
Come to think of it... That sounds like the very definition of better!
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Old 08-22-2015, 10:08 PM   #34
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Come to think of it... That sounds like the very definition of better!
Not if weight or strength per unit mass matter... Also, properly done vacuum bag infusion is more consistent than properly done chopper gun.

As I said, it's an engineering decision based on pros and cons. You can safely assume that parts produced by chopper gun don't fly much, and have probably never achieved orbit.

Which is better for a camper? That all depends on what 'better' means to you...
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Old 08-22-2015, 11:01 PM   #35
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Not if weight or strength per unit mass matter... Also, properly done vacuum bag infusion is more consistent than properly done chopper gun.

As I said, it's an engineering decision based on pros and cons. You can safely assume that parts produced by chopper gun don't fly much, and have probably never achieved orbit.

Which is better for a camper? That all depends on what 'better' means to you...
I have seen the Lil'Snoozy... nice trailer... not better, not likely to fly or achieve orbit, not even likely to float even though it comes on a boat trailer.
I prefer properly done chopper gun with reflextix and ratfur. More comfort, and the price has not achieved orbit and rarely causes a flight response.

I once explored the idea of building a car using a small plane for the body. I examined several prospective aircraft, none of which were road worthy, it soon became obvious that more structural integrity was required for road use than for flight.

I conclude in saying that the while Lil Snoozy certainly deserves consideration among peers, superiority is not among its legitimate claims.
Prose and Cannes can be left to the critics.
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Old 08-23-2015, 12:05 PM   #36
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I take it then that you don't think I am the Luddite which you seem to imply by the rest of your text!

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Well at least we know that's not an objective judgement on your part!
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Old 08-24-2015, 01:14 AM   #38
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It's been interesting reading everyone's ideas on FG type builds but I do have a comment. Pluses and minuses aside, being the average age of FG owners are on the, ah....... higher end, do we really think we'll out live the trailers life span? A few cracks and sags, a weak axle over time? Gee, I've got that going on too . As I see it, as long as the size and layout works for you, enjoy it.
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Old 08-24-2015, 05:36 AM   #39
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Ripple (John),

I've tried to respond to your PM but this forum and my i pad don't seem to like each other. Perhaps you can e-mail me (crawford@pcrawford.com) for directions, etc. I've also sent an e-mail that may be in your junk box.

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Old 08-24-2015, 06:30 AM   #40
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Patrick,
I received you message, and have responded via email - thanks
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Old 08-24-2015, 12:03 PM   #41
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I think it is layout and amenities or features that ultimately lead to satisfaction or dissatisfaction with a camper. Or for a tent and most other camping equipment for that matter. Small ultra-lite backpacking stove weight is the amenity, three burner propane stove capacity and ease of use is the amenity.

There may be pros or cons to specific construction, or personal opinions of what different construction methods yield in terms of amenities, or drawbacks. Double hull means no rivets going through and better sound and thermal insulation but can be difficult to modify and tracking down or repairing leaks can be very difficult.

There is also price and/or availability too. I'll put up with a lot more "negatives" from a workable but inexpensive choice than I will from a high cost one. I personally do not think it is reasonable to compare a $150 screen tent directly against a $500 clam screen tent. Or an older used camper against a brand new one, or Deluxe against base models.

That is why figuring out exactly what you NEED from your camper to make you happy is critical to making a good purchase. Height, bed size, weight, bathroom, living space, storage all come out of the exact same "pie". Taller will probably add weight, each of the others will come out of the same available space at the expense of one of the other items and will probably impact weight.

The earlier suggestion to list Must Have, Should Have, Would Be Nice to Have. Is I think the ideal way to go about this and should be based on how you camp and want to use the camper. Rear door for loading bikes does nothing for me. I can not imagine me riding a bike again outside of a post apocalypse Mad Max world. Others half the reason they camp is to kayak or bike in new and interesting places so ease of loading bulky items matters. We all be different! I like rivets and a single hull, the small bed while not "ideal" does make for a snuggly night and I'm good with that :-)

Bear in mind you can always sell it if it annoys you too much, buy something else based on what you learned from owning the first one. Not like we are talking about getting a full back tattoo here.
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