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Old 05-26-2011, 09:50 AM   #15
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Let's help them catch some typos:

In the Standard Options List:
"12” stainless steal sink"
"Disc Breaks"
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:07 PM   #16
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Sharp looking, but out of my price range. No AC option?
The Lil Snoozy was a great option at several thousand less than a Casita. Now for the same price, I think the Casita offers more...like indoor plumbing.
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:25 PM   #17
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I sent an email yesterday with a list of questions, but maybe I'll post it here also so everyone else can benefit------

"Looking at your website, little black box on exterior by bottom of rear window? Also picture shows front side window but the interior does not show front side window? Where are the 6 x 120v outlets located? I only see one? Does the propane package include stove? The picture shows a conventional w/h cover in rear but specs says 4 gal electric water heater? Is this the cover for the instant lp heater? I see (1) vent for propane refer in picture, where is 2nd exhaust vent? Is the 2 way refer same size as electric model? Is the toilet a cassette with outside access to the removable tank or is it a portapotty with the tank split and 1/2 removable from inside the trailer? Where would the heater be located? Where is the fresh water tank located? Are all water lines inside? Is there an awning option as you mentioned in the forum a wrap around rear and side awning? Thanks for answering my questions."
By the way, Disc brakes are normally seen on high end expensive trailers, glad to see them showing on smaller trailers.
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:29 PM   #18
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The Lil Snoozy was a great option at several thousand less than a Casita. Now for the same price, I think the Casita offers more...like indoor plumbing.
I am not sure what you mean by indoor plumbing. In the archaic sense of the phrase, we have facilities for both manors of waste evacuation. In another sense all of our water lines are located inside the camper. As for the pricing, please inform me as to where you are receiving your Casita pricing. Not to be argumentative, but I understand a comparable Casita to be atleast $2,000 higher than we are with less equipment. I could be wrong though.
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:38 PM   #19
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Nicholas,
I'm not sure what Don was referring to in his comment, but I think he may be mistaken, your trailer is par if not above par with a Casita for the price and the fact you can and will make changes to your product is something Casita is not prone to do.
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:02 PM   #20
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Nicholas,
I'm not sure what Don was referring to in his comment, but I think he may be mistaken, your trailer is par if not above par with a Casita for the price and the fact you can and will make changes to your product is something Casita is not prone to do.
Thanks Jim,
I believe I have already emailed this to you, but if not, and for the benefit of the forum here are the answers to your above question. One item I would like to stress, we are offering awnings for the front and rear. I cannot find a manufacture that make me say "YES THATS WHAT WE NEED!" Do ya'll have any suggestions or preferences?

The pictures are not a standard camper, somethings will differ. The little black box on the exterior by the window is a water proof 110V outlet. The little window on the front of the camper is at the foot of the bed, the arch separating the bed area from the salon is blocking the window from view. We have 6 double plug outlets, all of which are located on the curb side of the camper: Under the galley counter in the rear for the standard A/C To the left of the sink in the upright cabinet. The water proof box outside of the camper, the one you asked about. One located under the counter for the 110v side of the Refrigerator 2 located under the "entertainment Cabinet" in the yellow one. One on the bed side and one closer to the Microwave. The propane package on the options list does not include the stove, it includes the tank, regulator, all lines and fitting. Along with 2 LP fume detectors with a life time (transferable) battery supply. The pictures show an Atwood 6 gallon fast recovery gas water heater. We have since decided to only offer the Electric water heater as standard and the Gerard instant as an option. The refrigerator pictured is a standard 110v compressor type unit which required only one vent. Optional are the 12v and gas refrigerators. Standard is the Thetford "Campa Potti XG" which is a Porto-potty, with no door. The Thetford CS200 cassette is an option. With that option comes a 14X14 inch door in the rear for easy removal. If the gas furnace is your choice it will be located under the galley counter. All of the fresh water lines are inside the camper. The fresh tank is located under the couch, along with the Shurflo revolution pump. Awnings are something that we do offer. Side, rear or both are your options. I have several manufactures I am considering, but if you have any preference I would welcome the recommendation. I hope I have answers your questions fully. Please ask any more that you may have Thanks
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Just tossing a fun idea out. I always thought these tip out wash basin's were neat. If you scroll down, there is a combo tip out basin with a thetford cassette toilet. fifth photo from the bottom and looks slick for the snoozy. But i have not idea of they are available in the USA. Might only be for the UK. Link here
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Old 05-26-2011, 02:10 PM   #22
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Just tossing a fun idea out. I always thought these tip out wash basin's were neat. If you scroll down, there is a combo tip out basin with a thetford cassette toilet. fifth photo from the bottom and looks slick for the snoozy. But i have not idea of they are available in the USA. Might only be for the UK. Link here
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Are you referring to the "contessa C400 tip-up basin sink"? If so, you might be on to something. I am going to have to research that further!! Thanks!
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Yes, exactly, it looks like a slick idea. But i dont know how the plumbing would work out for it. If it ships from the UK the price point would most likely be too high. I could not find a USA vendor.
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I love this company, I feel like we all are building it the way we would want it!!!!
Yes, Nicholas this is the same person-Jim
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:44 PM   #25
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I am not sure what you mean by indoor plumbing. In the archaic sense of the phrase, we have facilities for both manors of waste evacuation. In another sense all of our water lines are located inside the camper. As for the pricing, please inform me as to where you are receiving your Casita pricing. Not to be argumentative, but I understand a comparable Casita to be atleast $2,000 higher than we are with less equipment. I could be wrong though.
RE: Indoor plumbing was referring to the porta-potty instead of even the original cassette toilet. If I am wrong about that, then I apologize. But I am one who would prefer an RV toilet with the black tank. Still you and some others almost convinced me that the cassette toilet isn't really so bad. We had that discussion in another thread.

RE:Pricing...I should have said, virtually the same price.

In an earlier thread, it was said by Melissa "The brand in this thread is LiL Snoozy and the price is $13,900 with A/C, fridge, water heater, furance, awning, shower/cassette toilet etc." From $13,900 to the $18,000+ of a Casita is a big jump. But $2000 is not as much of a difference as $5000 or $6000. To me with the new price list, it is "in the same general price range" as a Casita, though maybe a thousand or two less. I am looking at a Casita price list I received a few weeks ago during a visit to Rice, TX. At $17,000+ including AC, refer and furnace, the Lil Snoozy about the price range of a Casita Deluxe out the door.

At $13,900 loaded, it was a keeper. However, If you add A/C, fridge, water heater, furance, awning, shower/cassette toilet as extra cost items to the current sale price of almost $14,000, the price advantage shrinks. After the first 25 trailers, the price of $16,000 plus A/C, fridge, water heater, furance, awning, shower/cassette toilet will shrink that price difference even more.

Personally, I hope you sell a bunch of them. I would love to see them up and down the highway and see the owners join this group and add to the discussions. If I didn't live so far away, down here in Tech-sus, I would run over to your factory and check it out personally. i think it is a great idea for an RV. I am originally from the great state of Tennessee and think that where you are is a beautiful part of the country. I have driven over that mountain road between Knoxville and Ashville NC several times in the last five years. I would love to spend my summers in Gatlinburg and winter in Sarasota!

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According to the website, $14K incudes everything you mention, a/c,water heater, fridge,cassette and shower. Awning is extra as is with Casita, so you can save about 3K if you part of the first 25 owners. I'm tempted to drive down and looksee....
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Old 05-26-2011, 08:00 PM   #27
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Jim,
the above post says "Standard is the Thetford "Campa Potti XG" which is a Porto-potty, with no door. The Thetford CS200 cassette is an option."

The break in half potti is standard not the cassette. Take care.
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Old 05-26-2011, 09:30 PM   #28
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Ooops, I read the options list instead of the standard equipment list.

Electric only water heater is standard, 4 gallon as opposed to 6.
Electric only refer is standard as opposed to 2 way or 3 way.
(not much dry camping)

Furnace and propane system are optional if you need heat in the colder weather.
Cassette toilet is optional.

Don't get me wrong, I like the trailer. It tows great from what has been posted. I would really like it with a recliner. One advantage already discussed is that Snoozy will do more customizing than Casita. Ya just need to hook up sooner because of the smaller capacities. Different strokes for different folks, and different preferences...like the difference between a porta-pottie and cassette or a regular RV toilet system.

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