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Old 06-01-2011, 04:41 PM   #57
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The bed in the Egg camper can be as big as 54X87....I just measured
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Old 06-01-2011, 05:29 PM   #58
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I'm sure he will respond in this thread, I'm not concerned with an immediate answer. I am liking this snoozy better and better.
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Old 06-01-2011, 06:07 PM   #59
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I hope everyone had a wonderful Memorial Day, I know I did. NOW, straight to answering some question:
CPAHarley: The frame you see on the website is primed and painted black. The production frames are galvanized. I am experimenting with painting over the galvanized. I think the black frame looks better , but galvanized is just much more durable and long lasting. The outer structure is 4” channel steel, with 2” angle reenforcing structures. Tomorrow I will take a picture of a cut out to show the construction.


I answered the email about bed size but I will re-post it here for the benefit of the forum : “The dimensions for the under-bed storage measured from the shortest point side to side. With fiberglass molding, we must have a "draft" to make the part separate from the mold easier (think cake pan). This draft give a slight outward taper to the part. At the narrowest point (being the floor) the storage measures 72" wide, as the measurement travels up the side of the camper it grows to about 78" at the bottom of the bed frame. At mattress level, the bed is just under 80" long (wide if you are looking through the camper)”


We considered a roof mount A/C, until we saw the cost. Down here in South Carolina A/C is a must during the summer. We wanted to offer A/C standard. The window mount we use is more efficient, less costly, and easily replaceable.


Panoz77 : Funny you should mention flooring. When I weighed the floor tiles, I realized that they just wouldn't work. They added about 50 LBS to the camper. We now have a none skid surface on the counter mold. So the flooring is gel-coated fiberglass, similar to the deck of a boat. We do have three campers, in various stages of production, with the smooth fiberglass floor. They will receive some kind of floor treatment (obviously). You are also right, the sanction on the floor, in front of the couch, is for the table.


As for the Egg Fest in PA, where exactly is it? I would love to attend. It would give me an excuse to take a productive vacation. Can someone send me some information?


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I hope everyone had a wonderful Memorial Day, I know I did. NOW, straight to answering some question:
CPAHarley: The frame you see on the website is primed and painted black. The production frames are galvanized. I am experimenting with painting over the galvanized. I think the black frame looks better , but galvanized is just much more durable and long lasting. The outer structure is 4” channel steel, with 2” angle reenforcing structures. Tomorrow I will take a picture of a cut out to show the construction.


I answered the email about bed size but I will re-post it here for the benefit of the forum : “The dimensions for the under-bed storage measured from the shortest point side to side. With fiberglass molding, we must have a "draft" to make the part separate from the mold easier (think cake pan). This draft give a slight outward taper to the part. At the narrowest point (being the floor) the storage measures 72" wide, as the measurement travels up the side of the camper it grows to about 78" at the bottom of the bed frame. At mattress level, the bed is just under 80" long (wide if you are looking through the camper)”


We considered a roof mount A/C, until we saw the cost. Down here in South Carolina A/C is a must during the summer. We wanted to offer A/C standard. The window mount we use is more efficient, less costly, and easily replaceable.


Panoz77 : Funny you should mention flooring. When I weighed the floor tiles, I realized that they just wouldn't work. They added about 50 LBS to the camper. We now have a none skid surface on the counter mold. So the flooring is gel-coated fiberglass, similar to the deck of a boat. We do have three campers, in various stages of production, with the smooth fiberglass floor. They will receive some kind of floor treatment (obviously). You are also right, the sanction on the floor, in front of the couch, is for the table.


As for the Egg Fest in PA, where exactly is it? I would love to attend. It would give me an excuse to take a productive vacation. Can someone send me some information?


Nicholas
Here is the post originally posted earlier this year....
Everyone seems to be leaning towards the 7/15-7/17 th date and I have not had anyone contact me from Bolerama who wanted to attend both rally's so let's stick with these dates and go for it. here is the link to cg Delaware Water Gap/Pocono Mountain KOA for reservations. Although it is still 7 months away the KOA policy is if you need to cancel or change (before 48 hours of the date) you will only lose $10, sort of like trip cancellation insurance. Not too bad for peace of mind and KOA will also allow you to change to another date if something comes up without losing a penny. They are very camper friendly. Mention the Egg Camper meet and pick you spot, I think 123-143 are the ones I placed on hold. I picked #132 tentatively.

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Delaware Water Gap / Pocono Mountain KOA | Camping in Pennsylvania | KOA Campgrounds
I know everyone would love to see you make it
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Old 06-01-2011, 10:31 PM   #61
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Thanks for the reply, my wife is in love with little snoozy.
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Old 06-01-2011, 10:35 PM   #62
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cpaharley: "...still 7 months away..." ? A month and a half, right? Wish I could come (but I'll be in Colorado then).

Nicholas, it's a camping trip that's a business expense, you need to take a bunch of these!
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Old 06-02-2011, 12:56 PM   #63
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Crossroads of America Rally in Indiana would sure be a good event too. 130 sites reserved already for this year. Here
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Old 06-03-2011, 10:24 AM   #64
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I have some good news for anyone who wants to see a Lil Snoozy up close and personal. I just made reservations for the Egg Camper meet in PA for the July 16 weekend! The Lil Snoozy will be at site 130 sometime mid-day Friday the 15th. I will have some information packets and my new, very essential, camera to document our first rally. Thank you very much for the invite, something tells me I am going to need a vacation by then!
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A Google map showing the location and dates of all the North America meets posted to this forum is located here: 2011 Rally Map - Google Maps

details of the meets can be found in the Rally/meet section of this forum.
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Small snoozy article Here
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:12 PM   #67
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Interesting, found on their site, "Hunting lodge--future designs will have option for a deer stand to be attached to the roof "
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Old 07-06-2011, 12:42 PM   #68
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It's quite a neat trailer - congrats! I am new to this market. I am just now looking into getting my first egg. I think your product is priced right, and it is a nice size and shape! My dislike would be the choice of all that oak wood inside. I have to wonder first off, why choose wood for a lightweight camper? Aren't there many modern engineered materials that would be lighter, stronger, and even cheaper?

I realize it is probably just a matter of personal tastes to some degree, but the weight question does intrigue me.
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It's quite a neat trailer - congrats! I am new to this market. I am just now looking into getting my first egg. I think your product is priced right, and it is a nice size and shape! My dislike would be the choice of all that oak wood inside. I have to wonder first off, why choose wood for a lightweight camper? Aren't there many modern engineered materials that would be lighter, stronger, and even cheaper?

I realize it is probably just a matter of personal tastes to some degree, but the weight question does intrigue me.
First and foremost, it is, of course a matter of preference, and then of ease-of-manufacturing. Making the interior fixtures molded fiberglass or something similar, ala EggCamper or Burro, makes for either a very clean, bright, airy interior, or a cold, sterile, life-in-the-icebox interior. Depends on your point of view. A little nice woodwork really warms the place up (from my point of view).

Wood also communicates a feeling -- most people have wood (or wood-looking) cabinets at home, and having wood in the camper gives the emotional feeling of solidity and home-iness. My opinion.

Kiln-dried red oak is really pretty lightweight, and very strong for that weight. I don't think the weight premium is all that much. Fiberglass really isn't very lightweight -- it is just very strong, so you don't have to use a whole lot of it. However, for cabinets, it has to be laid up thicker than for the rounded shell, making it heavier.

Scamp once told me (off the cuff remark) that the Custom Deluxe woodwork package typically adds about 200 lbs to a camper, and that is mostly attributed to the additional cabinetry. Considering that they use particle board for their table top and seating, and that the Custom Deluxe has 6" of additional bed and table, I can believe it. I know that Scamp's birch woodwork is very, very lightweight.

Wood also gives the option of very easy customization for individual customers. Making up molds for fiberglass is expensive and time-consuming, whereas with wood you can just do whatever you want, cheaply and easily.

I realize that I am comparing wood with fiberglass, and what was actually referenced was "modern engineered materials". There are, indeed, some very intriguing modern materials, but most come at a high cost premium, or require special equipment and skills. Manufacturers tend to stick with what they know, and that leaves us pretty much with fiberglass and wood.
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First and foremost, it is, of course a matter of preference, and then of ease-of-manufacturing. .....
I realize that I am comparing wood with fiberglass, and what was actually referenced was "modern engineered materials". There are, indeed, some very intriguing modern materials, but most come at a high cost premium, or require special equipment and skills. Manufacturers tend to stick with what they know, and that leaves us pretty much with fiberglass and wood.
Right. I was intrigued by the idea of what an "engineered solution" might be, and why no one has really tackled it (that I know of yet). Given that the whole dynamic often ends up being about weight and small car towing, I expected there'd be more emphasis on that criteria. e.g. the difference between #1500 and #1700 is rather important. I suppose these things are produced in very small numbers making any sort of hard tooling or technology prohibitively expensive.

I saw some picture or another a while back of aluminum cabinets, which would seem to make a great technical solution. It was probably a custom conversion done by some guy who knew sheet metal working or something.
Thanks for your good explanation.
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