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Old 03-31-2012, 03:18 PM   #71
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George, I remember. It was all about the money. Melissa's family had a big bill come in and they could no longer afford a new TT, so they looked for a used one... had trouble finding one (of course) and wanted to go camping soon, so another member offered them the T@b at an affordable price.

Bill, I bet you clicked the back button, then the forward button. Your post will not appear, I've seen that myself. You have to go back to the thread title and click on it all over again, and then the post will appear. It's tricky.
Oh, I am sorry to hear that. I was hoping to see what others came up for the need to sleep more than two people and still have some seating.

I am thinking that a wrap-around dinette in the place of the sofa with a blue flame heater / fireplace along the wall where the entertainment center would have been with cabinets on both sides.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:23 PM   #72
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How did it go? We are anxious to hear. Some say the generator won't power the AC and microwave at the same time, but I think they said it will when I toured the factory. Ken
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:55 PM   #73
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How did it go? We are anxious to hear. Some say the generator won't power the AC and microwave at the same time, but I think they said it will when I toured the factory. Ken

To my knowledge it's not about the generator, it's about the 30 amp wiring. Though a generator might run both together (it would have to be a pretty big one) . And depending on the amp draw. It shouldn't exceed 30 amp. Mostly it would be at start up and AC cycle. But a big draw could fry some wires. And put undo stress on the AC as well as the microwave.
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Old 05-13-2012, 05:06 PM   #74
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Time has arrived. We leave tomorrow morning for SC and will pick up our Lil Snoozy first thing Monday morning. After camping until Friday in SC and doing some bicycling, we will head home.
Lil Snoozy built a closet and larger cabinets for us as we wanted something that we will be able to stay in for 4 or 5 months at a time after retirement.
Be back after Easter with updates.
Bill, we are anxious to know how it went and if the pricing for the upgrades were reasonable in your estimation. I am planning to retire in October and want to do the same thing as you are planning.
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:25 PM   #75
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I found the up grades very reasonable. The extra windows, spare tire, and microwave were as advertised on the web site. The larger cabinets have become standard. I don't have the paper work in front of me, but I think the closet and propane readiness $149.00.
Since Alan does not have insurance for propane installation, I bought all the propane equipment my self and contracted with Southern Propane Services to do the install, which was also very reasonable.
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:39 PM   #76
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Thanks, Bill,

I appreciate it. How was your trip? We are considering a lil snoozy, but our tow vehicle is a 2012 Subaru rated for 2700 lbs and 200 lbs on the tongue. If I can get the weights to work, we will do it. Was Alan at all negotiable on the price?

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Old 05-13-2012, 07:49 PM   #77
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I didn't deal on the trailer as I would an automobile. I think trailer prices with all manufacturers are as advertised. It is not as though you are dealing with an RV dealer or middleman that is marking up the trailer and has a margin to negotiate with. I found the upgrades more reasonable than I anticipated and would have maybe been a little embarrassed to want to bargain the costs down on upgrades.
I think a Suburu tow rated for 2700 lbs. would have no trouble towing. You may want to do an upgrade on the rear struts and go to Pep Boys for a $30.00 set of mirror extenders.
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:44 PM   #78
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That sounds great. Thanks for your thoughts. Did you have a good experience camping?
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Old 06-19-2012, 10:34 PM   #79
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Thanks guys for all the great info. The wife and I went down May 22 and visited the facility and talked to Alan and Nicholas(both nice guys). We were very impressed with the quality of the camper. The fit and finish was outstanding. From talking to them and looking at the camper it's obvious that they take pride in their product. We are former Aliner owners so we stopped on the way down to look at new Aliners. After seeing the quality of the Snoozy there was no contest. We are going down to pick up our Snoozy Fri. June 22. We live in WV so we will camp for a couple of days on the way back. We will let you know what we think. Again thanks for this forum. Without it would not have known.
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Old 06-20-2012, 04:06 PM   #80
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Happy Camping! I think you will be very pleased with your Lil Snoozy. My wife and I end up saying to each other on every excursion how pleased we are. We have now towed ours a total of 2100 miles. This coming week-end we will be doing 3oo miles round trip to our camp, the following week-end will be to the Egg Rally in Williamsport, and then off to Maine the following week for 18 days. So far nothing of significance negative to report regarding our trailer as it has been almost flawless. We did have an issue with the reverse lock-out on our brakes. Alan advised me to take it to a trailer repair center and he would reimburse me for the cost of repair. Enjoy!
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Old 06-20-2012, 04:45 PM   #81
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RVIA Certification
A lot of RV dealers Won't/Can't sell new non-RVIA approved rigs. A few won't even sell used ones that weren't RVIA approved. Lil Snoozy might be looking at the opportunity to sell through existing dealerships as the demand grows.
RV junkyards are chock full of relatively new RVIA certified trailers....If you want a badge for your 40year old Scamp, you can easily find a five year old junked trailer with one on it.
Even if you want a badge for your new Scamp, this method will save you about $500, since Scamp won't pay the dues or the per unit fee to the RVIA.
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RV junkyards are chock full of relatively new RVIA certified trailers....If you want a badge for your 40year old Scamp, you can easily find a five year old junked trailer with one on it.
Even if you want a badge for your new Scamp, this method will save you about $500, since Scamp won't pay the dues or the per unit fee to the RVIA.
Sorry, but using a badge from a different trailer is effectively counterfeiting, and if you sell the unit with the improperly obtained badge in place, it is fraud.

The certification badge insures that a manufacturing standard has been met. I wouldn't ever buy a rig that didn't have a certification badge in place. Other parts of the per unit fee go to cover industry initiatives, legislative improvements, etc.
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Sorry, but using a badge from a different trailer is effectively counterfeiting, and if you sell the unit with the improperly obtained badge in place, it is fraud.

The certification badge insures that a manufacturing standard has been met. I wouldn't ever buy a rig that didn't have a certification badge in place. Other parts of the per unit fee go to cover industry initiatives, legislative improvements, etc.
Lighten up!...That was a joke to make a point...
The RVIA exists solely for the purpose of collecting fees from manufacturers to "certify" what Scamp is already doing. They charge according to the number of units produced... A flat fee of a few thousand dollars per year plus a couple hundred dollars per unit. They do not inspect each trailer. It amounts to a pledge from the trailer manufacturer with fees attached for the privilege of making it!

Here is their website...The Recreation Vehicle Industry Association: RVIA Main Site Home

I have had fiberglass trailers both with and without a badge and none has been better built or shown better quality control than my Scamp.
IMHO... The RVIA would be simply irrelevant except for the additional cost.
BTW... I can find no currently manufactured moulded fiberglass trailer with a current membership. I checked for... Escape,Trillium, Scamp, Casita, even Eggcamper,LiL Snoozy and Weiscraft (little Joe)
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There appear to be only 4 RVIA members in Canada: Great West Van Conversions, Leisure Travel/Triple E, Pleasure-Way, and Roadtrek.
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