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Old 11-19-2014, 03:29 PM   #15
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Hummmm..... good points to consider Paul, even if I do have trouble keeping it between the ditches.
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Old 11-19-2014, 03:33 PM   #16
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......change over in management.

....The RV net forum site mentioned above also mentioned that some reps from the Lil Snoozy were posting on forums under aliases ........
The same (is the title co-owner? idk) is still there today as the day the complaints were posted, Link here
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And all the other posts you are talking about are still in the archives. A search for cadillac cts may find them. Being locked, they are a little easier to find also. Dated Somewhere around 7-26-2011 I think. A forum member here went through and pointed them all out.
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Old 11-19-2014, 05:30 PM   #17
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road hauling experiences?
Rexlion has some here "I was unaware that they had sold me a trailer with an extra-wide axle....."

RV.Net Open Roads Forum: Anyone Else Out There Own A LIL Snoozy?

I had to just shake my head after reading this. The wide track of the Snoozy is not a flaw, it is a design choice. That choice brings certain advantages, and certain disadvantages to the design. It is up to each customer to weigh the relative advantages and disadvantages during the purchasing process. If you don't like the wide track, buy something else. If you aren't bothered by the wide track, consider the Snoozy.

The fact that this owner drove his wheel off the pavement is no fault of the Snoozy. It is purely that he did not allow for the width of the axle in his driving. Snoozy had absolutely zero obligation to him for his driving error, and the fact that they offered him any help at all is commendable. When he thumbed his nose at their offer and demanded more, well, I for one don't blame them for cutting him off.
I am "Rexlion" on rv.net. To set things straight, I never demanded more, I merely told Alan (based on his comment to me that the trailer was not designed for a spring axle and would be damaged by it without reinforcing the frame) that I was willing to accept his offer if he would also provide info on what frame reinforcements were necessary. To that he replied that my demands were unreasonable. Paul, do you think that it was unreasonable of me to ask him how I should protect my trailer from damage when using a spring axle?

As for my driving, how would you like to be on a very narrow country blacktop with no center line and have a car coming toward you that looks to be a little too far over? I bet you would run one trailer tire off the pavement, just like I did.

Oh and BTW, when I contacted the frame mfr and asked what reinforcements were needed on the frame for a spring axle, they were puzzled and said no such reinforcement was necessary. So what does that say about Alan's veracity?

Here's the thread on FGRV: Snoozy axles
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Old 11-19-2014, 05:32 PM   #18
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We've put over 7000 miles on ours from June through Sept. 2014. We had no problems with keeping it within the ditches, but the track width is wider than our 13' Scamp.
The problems that others have experienced, ie: blue hose on the Thedford toilet; the door latch failing causing the door to open; and window screens falling out on rough roads, were all parts manufacturers problems which are being taken care of. The only problem I had, was with the shiny aluminum fenders when the sun was low enough in the sky, would reflect it into my side view mirror :. I do like being able to see the tires in the side view mirror. The door latch on ours was not part of the recall, and we elected to go with the Thedford portapotty (no blue hose), and HEHR windows, so no screens falling out. The layout of the Lil Snoozy that isn't found in any other new production trailers was the reason we purchased, and continue to love it. I do like the look of the computer generated Lil Snoozy, but if the tires were placed within the body, there would be storage loss.
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Old 11-19-2014, 06:05 PM   #19
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Considering the way Thom had his Parkliner wheel wells modified, it seems possible for a FG shop to cut in and form wheel wells out of FG on the Snoozy. There's a saying, anything can be done for a price.
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Old 11-19-2014, 06:27 PM   #20
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I'm not taking any sides in this argument but there is a difference in overall width. The Snoozy is 8 foot across from tire to tire. A 17 foot Casita has a width of 6'8". Sixteen inches seems like a significant difference to me and I have to sympathize with the guy who was worried about towing on narrow roads.

But it all comes down to what is important to the person buying the trailer. Do you want a real bathroom, propane, a bigger bed, etc. etc.? Everybody makes their own choice and then has to live with it.
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Old 11-19-2014, 06:42 PM   #21
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To be fair, I should mention that the new axle on my Hauley has not presented difficulties despite some narrow roads and streets. If only it had started with an 8' wide axle, I probably would have been fine; but unbeknown to me they'd sold me an 8'6" wide axle (and the fenders stuck out even farther). 6" narrower really has made a big difference for me. I think most people would be ok with the 8' wide, once they grew accustomed to it.

Tulsa has some old streets near downtown that I must traverse regularly; these streets were designed for 3-lane traffic (center turn lane), but they repainted them as 4-lanes. That outside lane only has about 3" to spare on either side of the axle, and I hate skinning the tire against the curb, so I always try to stay in the inside lane.

Luckily, hardly any of you will find yourselves having to deal with the results of cheap-out city councils when you go camping, so your situation likely will be better.
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Old 11-19-2014, 08:03 PM   #22
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I have not measured the track width on my Tacoma vs. my Scamp, but they look to be pretty close. I would have a few problems and questions with the trailer track being much wider:
1. more care needed in tight turns, although I would rather lose a wheel instead of the whole side of the camper in a sideswipe.
2. while dodging pot holes or rough pavement, and we all know there is enough of it along the way, I get feedback from my TV how well I am doing, and I can assume that the Scamp is following exactly.
3. driving in heavy rain - I assume that all wheels tracking is better with respect to hydroplaning or rolling resistance.
4. do I need a wider track on the trailer to pull more g's in a turn? I am not crazy to test the limits either way!
The wider track does not seem to be of any advantage. The storage space that the wheel wells take up does not look very significant.
My two cents.
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Old 11-19-2014, 08:43 PM   #23
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More two cents re. #3 above. On September 12 we crossed the watershed from NL to PQ just west of Labrador City. There was an inch of slush on the road and I was glad I had to make just one track in the snow with both the truck and trailer. Here is what it looked like when we woke up.
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Old 11-19-2014, 09:40 PM   #24
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Once again it all comes down to preference. Lil Snoozy has a three month backlog. I guess they have no trouble selling them....


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One thing I noticed on the Lil Snoozy sales video - things like the cassette toilet (which I really like) are not standard. The standard option is a porta potty. The cassette shown on the video is extra $600. Same deal with the nice "memory mattress" - it's an added option. Their list price is $19.9K, but quickly adds up to more like $25K with just a few options.
Thats common to Scamp and Casita and other manufactures as well. But as you sound like your not totally sold on a LS and Customer Service is important you should give the 17' Escape a good look - base price on it is $22,500.00 but the list of standard equipment include for that is long!
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The track being wide is relative to the track on the TV. If it is close, then the trailer will track with the tow vehicle. If there is a significant difference then it won't. In the latter case you can find yourself adjusting your position in your lane constantly trying to compensate for one then the other. This is most significant on heavily traveled blacktop where truck traffic has worn deep tracks in the pavement. A car dolly or boat trailer can provide a good illustration.
Someone mentioned being able to see the wheels. That is important with external fenders in parking lots, centerline barriers, or even when setting up at a campsite. It does require setting your mirrors a bit lower than normal to bring the fenders into view, which I think is a wise move.
As with any change, extra care must be taken until good habits and familiarity are developed, after that...It's what your used to!
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Thats common to Scamp and Casita and other manufactures as well. But as you sound like your not totally sold on a LS and Customer Service is important you should give the 17' Escape a good look - base price on it is $22,500.00 but the list of standard equipment include for that is long!
Customer service is one thing that all fiberglass trailers have in common. They all have the same network of options in case repairs or warranty work is needed. There are no dealer networks, so it comes down to whether the builder is faithful and willing to pay a third party for repairs and how much verification is required of the buyer. They all seem to be very good at honoring their warranties.
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Old 11-20-2014, 05:38 AM   #28
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We purchased a used twin bed model (very rare) The Wide track is perfect for those interstates We are not bothered by big trucks racing by us at 70-80mph it's the most stable trailer I have driven . In an earlier life I was a trailer rep for a boat /cargo trailer mfg. I have lost count of how many trailer boats I've driven.
The Snoozy has so many good features
1-all fiberglass no wood floors
2-wheels you can see from your mirrors
3-rear entry with a 28 in door with screen door
4-Nice wood cabinets I would rather have fiberglass built ins like a egg camper
5-cassette toilet ( it has had its problems which I fixed with a sturdier hose )

Richard sent me new cabinet hinges for my used snoozy trailer and helped me ( with phone help)take apart my cassette toilet . so I think they have done a good job It's all personnel taste we were sold on the Egg camper until my wife saw the Lil Snoozy
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