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Old 05-07-2014, 05:19 PM   #29
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I hope you meant "Discourage overweight Towing"
No. I think I meant what I said. That they can't prevent people from encouraging overweight towing.
I think that's what I said.

If they cut out posts about "can I tow", and passenger vs. ST tires and a couple other recurring topics, there won't be any posts.
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Old 05-07-2014, 05:36 PM   #30
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I have a 13' 1984 U-Haul that I tow with a CR-V. No bathroom in it, no heater, no air conditioning. I got about 19 miles to the gallon last weekend.
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:41 AM   #31
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Great, back on track with this thead. Many of us on this forum are towing enthusiasts and luv to talk and discuss the topic of towing and tow vehicles.

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My daughter has a Honda Element with a tow hitch.
The Honda Element has so much going for it for someone like your daughter who has an interest in RVing and towing. It has a curb weight of almost 2 tons and handles it well. It has as much space inside as some mini vans. A very reliable vehicle. No one wants a vehicle that breaks down while out on vacation or traveling.

There is more to safe towing than dropping the tongue on the ball and driving off into the sunset.
When your daughter finds the trailer she likes be sure that she gets the connection right. On the trailer a good set of tires and axles with shocks help with stability. Having brakes on the trailer is another feature that adds a margin of safety that most appreciate.

Best of luck with your daughter's ventures.
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Old 05-08-2014, 10:12 AM   #32
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My Compact Jr weighs 1400 lbs. ready to go camping. It has ac, microwave, porta-potty and sleeps 2 with ease. Tongue weight is 160 lbs. It would work with the Element.
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:11 AM   #33
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There are not enough Trilliums on the trailer weight list.

I am fairly confident that an old Trillium 1300, with no appliances or options, would have a dry weight of close to 1500 lb. The OP could pack their stuff in the Element.
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:43 AM   #34
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I am fairly confident that an old Trillium 1300, with no appliances or options, would have a dry weight of close to 1500 lb.
Maybe but why guess at it? Why not weigh it to be sure?

Not to mention many of the old Trilliums being sold in these parts still have appliances in them.

The problem as I see it with folks here making suggestions as to what they *believe* their trailers to weigh is that it can lead to big problems for the party asking.

When I went looking for a trailer to match the towing specs of a brand new car I had I did a lot of searching through old posts here, reading about what such and such a trailers weighed loaded up. Unfortunately the Real World Weight Thread had not yet been posted so I didn't have what has now become a pretty valuable resource for someone here considering the purchase of a Fiberglass trailer.

I looked a long time to find a trailer that I believed based on what I had read here in regards to a specific trailer and layout weighed loaded up for camping as well as looking at the trailer manufactures actual brochure for the year of trailer I purchased to make sure it was within all the towing specs. Went so far as to take a 2 day drive one way and go through the import process to make sure I had the right trailer to match the tugs specs.

It turned out that a lot of people here had really under estimated the weight of their trailers - not only on the loaded weight but the dry weight as well! The good news for me was that although the trailer weighed more than what I had believed it would it was still under my total tow capacity of the tug but it was no matter how I loaded it going to be over on the tongue weight capacity if I wanted a solid safe tow regardless of how hard I tried to get the axle weight down. The only good part of the story is I don't carry more than one passenger and as such was able to add that extra 40 or 50lbs onto the tongue for a stable tow without much worry about over loading the rear of the tug or going over my total GVWR..... had I had a family and rear passengers I would have been looking at selling a brand new car and taking a pretty heavy loss on it that I could not afford!
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:52 PM   #35
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Could the tow vehicle tow weight recommendations also be referring to the wear and tear on the engine and transmission? On the flats a Honda Element or CRV would be adequate, but pulling up a long mountain stretch such as I-70 W before Denver can really take its toll on a warm day. I saw many people with trailers, and even truckers pulled over to cool down. For the most part, todays SUV's frame can handle the 2000# trailer, but can the transmissions and 4 cyl. engine? Just food for thought.
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Most 4 cylinder SUV's are of unit construction and don't have a frame, but front wheel drive isn't a known strong point either when compared to rear wheel drive anyway.

IMHO: I think that brakes and handling, with the additional weight behind the vehicle, are of more concern than wear and tear on the driveline. You can always downshift and go up any Interstate grade. Those that are overheated usually drove past the "Turn Off A/C" sign and tried to hold 70 MPH on the grades pulling a toybox full of "stuff" and/or have existing mechanical problems that they "didn't have time to fix"
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My daughter has a Honda Element with a tow hitch. She says it is rated for 1500 lbs. She is wondering if there are any 13' w/o bath out there that she could possibly tow (bearing in mind loading adds weight, etc.). I know a Casita 13' is out of the question. What about some of the lesser known trailers? Or will she be limited to a teardrop?
Looks like you've gotten a few good trailer suggestions already- hope this to be another:

I've been working on a list of successful small tow combos based on first-person posts both here and elsewhere. It's a work in progress and far from finished/comprehensive, but if you're interested in what I have so far just send me a private message.

Best of luck in your search for info!
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:00 PM   #38
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Not about fiberglass campers but about weight & towing......so after reading feel free to delete,if you think it doesn't fit.

DH & I just finished converting a bass boat trailer to a kayak trailer that our DD can use to carry her boats/camping gear & or bicycles.She drives a 2013chevy Equinox LT it is a 4 cylinder. We have 5 kayaks total weight of them is 250 Lbs,since that will be the heaviest weight she will tow & the most often, after we finished our build we loaded the boats went to the weight station and found out that loaded it weights in at 1500 lbs.This past week end we all went camping she towed the kayak trailer with all 5 boats and her car loaded(3 people,dog,gear for 3 nights/days of boating/camping) . going North East from home there are Lots of steep hills,so we felt it would be a fair test of how well her car and the trailer would work.

4 cylinder towing 1500 lbs.....her mileage going 378 miles on our trip ..was 24 MPG
( driving with the wind)

Coming home,same route,highway but against the wind her millage was only 22MPG

She & her daddy worried that it might be to much for her SUV because she was at her tow limit.....they tracked everything they could think of and stayed well within all things to watch(RPM,way it handled,braking,cooling ) She had been reading that in other countries her SUV is rated to tow 2000 pounds, here in the USA it is 1500 so she was at her limit before she put in her passengers and gear.

Just thought this might be interesting to some folks talk about towing and tow rates.
Sorry if it is to long OR off topic( because the trailer or boats are fiberglass ) AGAIN let me say if the moderators thing it is wrong to be here or want to edit in anyway,feel free to do whatever you think is right,It want hurt my feelings or upset me in anyway.

Happy Camping to all
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:58 PM   #39
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My Boler was definitely lighter than the U-Haul I currently own by several hundred pounds. I could easily move the Boler around by grabbing the tongue and pushing it around in the driveway - the U-Haul not so much.
I think my Boler weighed around 900 to 1000 lbs - the U'haul is more like 1500.

I just bought another trailer (not all fiberglass) - a German Eriba Puck that weighs around 750 lbs - its a featherweight compared to my other trailers.



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She drives a 2013chevy Equinox LT it is a 4 cylinder. We have 5 kayaks total weight of them is 250 Lbs,since that will be the heaviest weight she will tow & the most often, after we finished our build we loaded the boats went to the weight station and found out that loaded it weights in at 1500 lbs.
For sure. Towing something that is aerodynamic is going to tow a lot easier than a box. That is one of the reasons I like the design of most glass eggs. When towing something with a 4cyl (Honda Element) an aerodynamic trailer is very desirable.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:20 AM   #41
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Could the tow vehicle tow weight recommendations also be referring to the wear and tear on the engine and transmission? On the flats a Honda Element or CRV would be adequate, but pulling up a long mountain stretch such as I-70 W before Denver can really take its toll on a warm day. I saw many people with trailers, and even truckers pulled over to cool down. For the most part, todays SUV's frame can handle the 2000# trailer, but can the transmissions and 4 cyl. engine? Just food for thought.
A good question and there is not a lot of actual towing information regarding the Honda Element. There are Element owners on this forum but few have chimed in regarding their towing experience.
We also know the Tow Rating in most cases does not address pertinent parameters in detail so we don't know what effects towing will have on the tow vehicle until it is actually tested in the real world. I am aware of a Honda Accord that did extensive towing and had no ill effects. Civics and CRV's have been very reliable. Generally speaking Honda's work well.
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Thank you so much for the specific names of trailers that might work for my daughter, and for the other suggestions too. I have heard of or seen most of the trailers mentioned, and suspected they might be a possibility, if one could be found and at the right price! It was good to have second opinions. So sad there aren't more Bolers in the lower US! She will be pulling mostly on the flat, unless she ever comes back to CA! She has a standard transmission, which concerns me more than anything, as I've never towed with anything other than an automatic and can envision problems if ever stopped on a hill! Thank you also, Moderators, for reopening this thread.
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