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Old 02-20-2016, 03:24 PM   #15
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(Tennessee) Henry, you might have to settle for day hikes and letting your wife sleep in the RV while you enjoy your HH outside. What you might try is a "luxury" day hike for her, where you carry most of the stuff, keep her very comfortable, and cook a romantic meal somewhere at sunset. If you're sitting around the fire and things are lovely, maybe she'll be tempted? (And you have those 6lb hammocks in your pack, right?)
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Old 02-20-2016, 05:22 PM   #16
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I have tried dryer lint to get some charcoal started, and didn't have much luck. Maybe it's a cotton vs polyester thing... dunno.

I seem to recall reading that one can use a 9V battery and steel wool to start a fire. But I haven't tried it.
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Old 02-20-2016, 05:45 PM   #17
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Carol, will you share what it is you do with the tire tubes??

I finally convinced hubby Ron to invest in a "Spot" device, which records his location via satellite every 10 minutes when he's out on day-long rides gawd knows where on his motorcycle. At least he's into long-distance riding on back and curvy roads... not boondocking. But I can check up on him regularly on my cellphone or desktop, and note when he's about 10 minutes away so the garage door can be open when he gets here.

If we ever go on long treks away from the trailer, I'll have to give my kids the info so they can find us if we get lost!

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Hummm. An emergency communication device such as the original Spot should not require your kids to be given any info ahead of time in order to find you should you get lost.

The whole purpose of a emergency communication device such as the original Spot, as well as the InReach device I have is when lost one simple activates it and it will send a message out to the National Rescue centre giving them your location. In the case of the InReach product I have it also allows for two way communications with the rescue centre. Helpful to have if you frequent areas where there could be a long delay in time before anyone gets to you or you need to give them info in regards to a medical emergency. The InReach product will also allow tracking from a mobile device as well though.

If your Spot is not designed to or able to send out a message to at least the Emergency Response centre giving your location, then I wonder if what you have is the new product Spot is selling that I understand is essentially just a tracking device? Geared mainly to finding lost or stolen vehicles/equipment?

The little bit of bike tire tube will burn even when wet and long enough in wet weather to allow you to get other wet fire materials burning. Not the most enviornmentally friend product but when in an emergency situation it works.
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Old 02-20-2016, 08:26 PM   #18
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I hope nobody is going to beat me up for cheating, but a plumbing propane torch with a click (piezoelectric) start works like a charm. Not convenient for backpacking, but plenty of room for it in the Scamp or the truck.
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Anything greasy helps with fire building. Fritos and potato chips work great!
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Old 02-20-2016, 09:04 PM   #20
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Don't use rubbing alcohol. Get some denatured alcohol. I made my own but also have a couple of these: http://brasslite.com/

There are a number of low tech but very good wood burning camping stoves on the market. I much prefer these to alcohol stoves. Wood burning stoves are also easy to make: See Zen Backpacking Stoves - Homemade/DIY Stove Links
and hru-hiker.com/projects/nimblewill_stove.php

But if you want to buy, these look good (on Amazon or just Google):

Outwolves (TM) camping wood burning stove
Foldable Pocket Cooker
Vargo Stainless Steel Wood Stove
Sierra Stove wood burning backpacking/camp stove with Complete Upgrade Kit
Littlbug Stove
Wood Burning Backpacking Stoves | SoloStove.com
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We sometimes find it difficult to light the in-trailer propane stove in cold weather. The propane fire-lighter sticks often do not work in cold weather. Someone in this forum told me to keep the "used up" fire stick and use it as a fire starter! It actually works great as it is flint and steel without the propane. The propane comes from the stove top and you flick the fire starter stick and voila! you have a lit stove top!
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Old 02-21-2016, 05:31 AM   #22
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Gilda,
Do you mean Butane stick lighters, such as the Scripto AimNFlame or the similar BIC Multi purpose lighter? I keep these on hand. It sometimes helps in cold weather to put the lighter under your clothes next to your skin and warm it up for an hour or so, then try to get it to light. These child proof lighters are a persnickety lot, at any rate.

I sometimes use a standard cigarette light which I keep under my coat in cold weather. I then use a long fireplace match to light the RV stove. The first time the match is lite by striking. I then clip off the burnt part and save the stick. The next time I use the BIC to light the wooden stick, then light the stove. I then clip that burnt part off and so on until the stick is too short to use. Using the short BIC lighter to light the stove is a bit too tricky for me, although in a pinch I do it.

If you are truly talking about a propane fire lighter stick, could please let me know where you got it and the manufacturer?
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The other day, when I went for a hike where cell phones do not work, (anywhere out of the main valley here) I carried a fusee just in case. They are heavier than other firestarters but will do the job. When I used to work in the woods during the winter, I'd carry one in my work vest, along with blobs of pitch from bug infested trees.

In camp? I carry those waxy sawdusty blocks to cheat with. If I'm with certain friends, they usually add some "accelerant" to the fire to get it going. Otherwise, the sawdusty blocks will work but with all fires, you have to have patience, or "accelerant". Hope I spelled that right. I don't think I did.
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Old 02-21-2016, 10:31 AM   #24
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I don't as a rule have a campfire, maybe once every month o so while on the road.

This works well: Paper tube from toilet tissue or paper towels (these cut in half or in thirds). Stuff a piece of used mechanics paper towel (these are almost like cloth they are so thick) down to one end. Fill with sawdust, to about 1/4 to 1/2" from the top. pour in about 1/4 cup or so of used motor oil, but not enough to drain out the bottom. Then close off that end with another piece of mechanics paper towel. Put 2 or 3 into a sandwich bag for safe keeping. When needed, stick under the work and light. It is very hot, will last a long time and there is no smoke. (I keep these in the bed of my truck. Never had a problem with leaking, but wife said not in the house or in the trailer, something about she has to do all the cleaning...).

I also have these on hand in the house: Tuna size can (bigger or smaller, whatever), cleaned out, corrugated cardboard cut about as wide as the can is high, long enough to fill up the can when rolled up, insert into the can. Buy a block of paraffin (usually sold where people buy their home canning supplies). Melt the paraffin (always use a double boiler. Never ever try to melt in a pan over an open flame. I see no need to explain how I found out about this) and pour into the tuna can over the rolled up cardboard. I usually put in a 100% piece of cotton string in the center, all the way to the bottom but I have found that if you just let a bit of the cardboard stick up in the center that works OK. When you want to use it just light the cotton wick. You can start a campfire, or use it as a stove. We had the Boy Scout troop make these to keep in their backpacks and day packs.
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Ok, so more likely it's butane! I cannot go look now as my trailer is parked 1 hour from my home.
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Old 02-21-2016, 10:34 PM   #27
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Don't use rubbing alcohol. Get some denatured alcohol. I made my own but also have a couple of these: Ultralight Backpacking-Camping Alcohol Stove

There are a number of low tech but very good wood burning camping stoves on the market. I much prefer these to alcohol stoves. Wood burning stoves are also easy to make: See Zen Backpacking Stoves - Homemade/DIY Stove Links
and hru-hiker.com/projects/nimblewill_stove.php

But if you want to buy, these look good (on Amazon or just Google):

Outwolves (TM) camping wood burning stove
Foldable Pocket Cooker
Vargo Stainless Steel Wood Stove
Sierra Stove wood burning backpacking/camp stove with Complete Upgrade Kit
Littlbug Stove
Wood Burning Backpacking Stoves | SoloStove.com
Interesting. Just yesterday I got motivated to buy one of these little alcohol burners. I chose this one, for less than $12: Robot Check
All of these spirit burners seem to be very frugal on fuel. Users report heating a pint of water in 6 to 8 minutes with one tablespoon (15 ml) of alcohol. Some of them, like the one I picked out, have a lid that is easy to close incrementally to 'turn down' the heat for simmering, which will slow the fuel burn rate. Leftover fuel can be stored in the unit without leaking out. A quart of denatured alcohol should go a long way. It seems like a handy alternative cooking method to have around.
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10 or so years about about the only alcohol stove you could buy was the Trangia, which is made of brass, has been around for literally a hundred years, and made in Sweden. This "Professional New Mini Set Stove for Camping/hiking Cs-b02" is a Chinese knock off and is made of aluminium, is lighter in weight, much cheaper in cost, but looks like it should work as least as well as the Trangia. I noticed a number of other alky stoves and accessories when I followed the link above, which were unavailable when I was in the Boy Scouts with my sons. At one point I cut up a tin can to use as a stove holder and wind shield, which worked very well. So well in fact that I ran out of alcohol on time camping with the Scouts, threw in some bits of dried wood branches and cooked my food quite nicely. Eventually I stopped messing with the alky and revised my tin can stove holder and just used it. These wood and alky stoves are great fun to play around with, but I still prefer my Svea 123R above all others, including the newer (but really efficient and so cool) newer, high tech butane and propane stoves.
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