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Old 05-31-2009, 06:25 PM   #15
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This is a BIG subject here in Ca, both with the general population, and with a lot of friends of mine. I'm in a camping club, and the buzz among our group via email the last few days has been very loud.

One of the many sad parts to this situation is that, according to the list I've seen online, TONS of the parks here on the central coast are slated to be effected. Several of them, like Refugio State Beach, are almost impossible to get reservations in. If it's that busy, and still not making money, well then maybe the fees do need to go up a bit?

The government, both the governor and the houses, have tough jobs to do and tough decisions to make, but I will really be sad to see so many of our beautiful parks virtually boarded up. Another facet of the problem we've been discussing in our club is, where will we plan trips to next year? ONLY Federal places, because all the state places will be closed? Or the few state sites that will be open will be SO SWAMPED, that it'll be virtually impossible to get in? It's a dark day on the horizon for camping folks.

If nothing else, I guess we can always just go out in the desert, pull off the side of the road, and boondock for a bit, huh? hehe

If anybody's curious, the link for the list is below...

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http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_12478665?source=rss
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That list just makes me feel sick. What about the people who have reservations at those campgrounds or vacations planned at those parks/places?
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Old 05-31-2009, 10:13 PM   #17
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I'm sure, I could go to Arizona to find fault with 'something' at your Parks?
Annie, you may not be aware that Gina is a very recent transplant to Arizona. Prior to a couple or three months ago, she lived in California...
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Old 05-31-2009, 10:22 PM   #18
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Apparently, South Carlsbad and Silver Strand are on the list for the San Diego District. I've never been able to get reservations for either park because they are usually booked well in advance. This is certainly sad (the closings) but somewhat laughable at the same time. California still has tremendous revenues compared to other States despite the economic downturn and an abundance of resources but still can't make ends meet. We may be getting what we deserve.
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Tomorrow, June 2, the Legislature's Budget Conference Committee will hear public testimony on the proposal to eliminate state funding and close 220 of our parks.

You can learn more and send a fax to have your voice heard here;
http://ga3.org/campaign/budget_may09?qp_source=ssp

Even if you don't live in California this should concern you because with all the budget problems in other states I'm sure the budget committees in those states will be watching how this plays out in California.

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Old 06-01-2009, 02:09 PM   #20
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Gina's experience is from Southern California where State Parks are very over crowded and over used - there are over 30 million people in LA & Orange counties. My experience is mostly along the California Central Coast - Santa Barbara & San Luis Obispo counties. The upkeep is much different.

The article is listing these State Parks for closure in our area, all of which make money:
<blockquote>Carpinteria SB
Chumash Painted Cave SHP
El Capitan SB
Emma Wood SB
Gaviota SP
La Purisima Mission SHP
McGrath SB
Point Sal SB
Refugio SB
San Buenaventura SB
Estero Bluffs SP
Hearst San Simeon SP
Limekiln SP
Los Osos Oaks SNR
Montana de Oro SP
Morro Bay SP
Morro Strand SB
William Randolph Hearst Memorial SB
</blockquote>The ones with SB are State Beaches. My guess they are 100% booked through the summer. The ones with SP are mostly State Parks along the beach like Morro Bay SP and are also 100% booked.

La Purisima Mission is one of the California Missions and is the only working one. The volunteers do all the chores as they were done when the Mission was active - making soap, gardening, black smith, etc. It is heavily used by all the 4th grade school classes in the area. It brings in hundreds of thousands of tourist dollars to the area as does William Randolph Hearst Castle. People wanting to visit these need a place to camp.

Californians just voted down in the Special Election all the the tax raises. They want the govenor and legislature to reduce spending. So the governor is hiting the people where it hurts the most, like school teachers, police, firemen, state parks (camping) not other programs that many of my friends think should be cut like protecting the red legged frog to the tune of millions of dollars and others.

My logic says, "follow the money". These cuts will cause the people of California to vote YES for the Tax Hikes.

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Thanks for posting the link for the California State Parks Foundation.

From the website -

Consider the facts:

FACT: The General Fund budget that state parks receive accounts for less than 1/10 of one percent of the entire state budget.

FACT: Last year alone, there were over 80 million visitors to state parks and all indications are that this year was going to be even higher.

FACT: For every dollar that funds the parks, $2.35 is returned to the state's General Fund through economic activities in the communities surrounding the parks.

That means eliminating all funding for state parks could actually result in the state losing over $350 million dollars in revenue.


This doesn't make sense if true. But is it true? Is there another reason for closing some of the parks?
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Well, we have paid in full reservations at Carpenteria and San Simeon SP on our way to Bandon. Both are on the block so we'll have to see what they are doing about refunding the $$$. Shouldn't be subject to the $7.50 res charge either since we didn't cancel on them.
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Well, we have paid in full reservations at Carpenteria and San Simeon SP on our way to Bandon. Both are on the block so we'll have to see what they are doing about refunding the $$. Shouldn't be subject to the $7.50 res charge either since we didn't cancel on them.
Our local TV said they were NOT going to close the State Parks until Labor Day. If this is accurate, you will be fine.
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Hope they hold off till then, we were looking forward to it. Sure wouldn't want to think about all those reservations trying to find alternate places in the middle of season.
I may get some of the last pictures of those parks in action if the reservations hold.
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