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Old 01-19-2011, 07:38 AM   #15
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We have been discovering there are tool boxes available to fill the space around the fifth wheel in the bed. If you plan carefully, you could probably fill the entire bed around the fifth wheel with secure storage.

Paula, there are good points about all the trailers. You can't make a bad choice. We have used and loved our Casita 17 but now we have an Escape fifth wheel on order. Although the trailer is only two feet longer, the living area is larger by almost half again. That did it for us.

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Old 01-19-2011, 08:00 AM   #16
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Lizbeth,
" Escapes and Bigfoots are 5th wheels, Scamps are goosenecks unless the have been converted to 5th hitches."

What is the difference between these two systems? Are there other systems out there? I've heard of something called a "mumby" which if I understand it correctly converts one style to the other. Pictures of it make me believe that it converts a goose neck to a 5th wheel style.
Is the goose neck, a ball secured on the bed on the truck?
Is the 5th wheel, a system that allows the ball or pin on the trailer to fit into a receiver mounting system mounted on the bed of the box?

Any preference or pluses and minuses with the two systems?

Does anyone know why the 2 systems exist?

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Old 01-19-2011, 08:52 AM   #17
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Hi: Wayne Hill... Here's pic's. of our 5th.wh. hitch. Same style used on all 18 wheelers. In Canada Goosenecks are used for horse trailers and consist of a ball mount in the box with the "Gooseneck" on the trailer. I preferred the 5th style hitch...more substancial looking to me. YMMV!!!
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:12 AM   #18
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Alf S,
Thanks for the pictures.
Lots more metal in the 5th whl hitches for sure. But... lots of farmers all over USA and Canada use and abuse thier goose necks every day. LOL
I talked to my brother about this recently and he tells me that the "newer" style goose neck balls can sort of fold up and disappear completely under the bed. The method to secure these is a pretty substantial plate bolted right to the frame. On the minus side is that the plate and ball would normally stay with the truck when you sold it.

With your Frontier and with the 6.5 box are you going to have to get one of those "pivoting" style 5th whl hitches?

One of my options is to get a rig very much like you have. Except an older Frontier, 4 door long box 4 x 4, 3.5 motor or bigger (depending on year) and smaller 5th wheel - single or tandem.

Anyone know why Scamp went with the goose neck style hook up?

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Old 01-19-2011, 10:50 AM   #19
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Here is a thread that I started in the towing forum when we were contemplating getting a Bigfoot 5th and I needed help understanding the hitch system. It may help others.
So tell me about fifth wheel hitches.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:19 AM   #20
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Lizbeth,
Thanks for the update. I read it all and it does explain a lot.
Now we have to actually get out and get a "feel" for the different size, styles, interior setups and types of trailers.
We have nothing much for sale around here right now - hibernation time?

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Old 01-19-2011, 07:49 PM   #21
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Hi: Marv...When is your joyous event happening???
Hi Alf,
It's too far out to get excited yet. Six months from today, July 19.
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Hi: Wayne Hill... We have a Husky 16K Double Pivot Hitch + the EZRoller attached to the truck bed. The hitch pivots both side to side and front to back. The EZRoller when pulled will allow the hitch to roll backward aprox. 8". We've never used that option and good thing too, as it was never properly set up to release. Since we bought our entire rig used it came with all the overkill stuff!!! The hitch was very expensive so I elected to swap it over to the new tug. It cost me $330. to R&R and add the necessary wire harness to the truck. I know I will have to let out the pin box on the trailer when I get it out of "Fibernation". Good thing there's lots of adjustment to both the hitch and pin box. http://www.huskytow.com
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:15 PM   #23
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Alf S,
Thanks for the info and references. I'll be interested in hearing about how well your new Nissan Frontier does with the towing.

You mentioned that " Our Escape 5.0 has an axle lift installed by the factory"
Will you be able to adjust your hitch to fit or was the old truck approx the same height as the new one?
How much approx did the factory lift the trailer? How did they do it? Using a sub frame or something?

Speaking of your Nissan Frontier.
4 door - long box or short?
auto or std?
4 Liter?
4WD?
Tow package?

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Hi: Wayne Hill... Our Nissan Frontier is a 4dr. long box 4X4 4ltr.V6 auto. no tow pkg. The tow pkg. would have included a regular hitch which we don't need...just extra wt. Every thing else my RV tech. put on it. Check out my posts in New "Tug" thread in General Chat.
The Axle lift is what Reace at Escape adds to accommodate a full size pickup. I think ours is about 3". Extra plates welded to the frame rails for the axle mounts and extra reinforcing for the rails themselves.
Our old Sierra stood 51" tall, from the ground up to the top of the box rails, at the axle. The new tug stands 49". There's 4 sets of adjustment holes for the hitch head and three for the pin box. Letting the pin box down will also move the trailer farther away from the cab of the truck!!!
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:31 AM   #25
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Alf S,
Thanks for the explanation and picture. I'll be interested in hearing on how well the Nissan does the job for you.

I suspect that you will really appreciate the extra space in the cab. Probably the extra length looking over your shoulder while hooking up, will cause you a little adjustment to your hook up routine but once you get used to it and adapt to it, it should work fine.
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Old 01-20-2011, 10:37 PM   #26
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Nissan Frontier & Scamp 5er

Our Nissan does a great job of towing - over 10,000 miles so far. We often get comments on how well proportioned the truck & 5er are together.
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Hi: Ellen B... NICE RIG!!! I feel your pain also!!! How about joining us at Niagara Wine Escape in mid Sept. I will be posting when I've made some arrangements!!!
Heading south now to thaw out for a week... sans trailer tho snif...snif.
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Ellen B... That is a nice setup indeed! The Nissan Frontiers make a nice tow rig for the fiberglass trailers.
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