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Old 03-15-2013, 08:42 PM   #29
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Mike, is Lil' Snoozy able to build a back door/hatch that will allow you to pack the trailer the way you need? One thing about a cargo trailer is the back door. Typically the entire width of the trailer and often with a ramp. It's about your needs... have you seen the nose cone for "typical" cargo trailers? If you're looking to improve MPG.

Nose Cone Wind Deflectors | Cargo Trailer Wind Deflectors | Fiberglass Nose Cones I saw a Nose Cone on a cargo trailer today on my way home from work. Don't know anything about them...
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:25 AM   #30
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Donna, the standard Snoozy door is all I need. My cargo of books and gift items is hauled in 18 gallon totes, about 16"x24" rectangles, and they fit through a narrow 'people' door just fine.

Francesca, I looked at that NHTSA link. It's for motor vehicles, but surely the requirements for trailers would be not be more stringent... probably less so.
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Great link, Brian- those Shuttles look pretty nice.

I'm surprised nobody's bought one and posted on here about converting it for camping etc...though you have to go up in size quite a bit to get more than six feet of headroom, the prices are sure reasonable.
The height spec is inconsistent in the website: the 6' wide is either 6' or 6'6" tall... and the next larger series is 8' wide. It's unfortunate for potential RV use that if you want a good length of bed crosswise, you have to go all the way to an 8' body, which is not one-piece.

I saw a camping trailer conversion of a Shuttle in Teardrops and Tiny Travel Trailers, and the owner/builder eventually joined FiberglassRV as well. It is based on a 5' by about 15' Shuttle, with an outside galley at the back and sit-up (but not really stand-up sleeping/living space in front). Looking for previous discussions of the Shuttle, a found a round similar to what this is becoming: Orca Trailers. In that discussion, Donna provides this information about Cathy's Shuttle conversion:
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I try to think outside the box when need fit meets functionality (and budget). Years ago we had a new member Cathy Mutch join us. She had a converted all-molded fiberglass cargo trailer she and her Dad had converted into a travel trailer...
Cool trailer! Check out her album. Pictures by catrinka613 - Photobucket...
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Old 03-16-2013, 12:23 PM   #32
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Francesca, I looked at that NHTSA link. It's for motor vehicles, but surely the requirements for trailers would be not be more stringent... probably less so.
I think so, too...main relevance being that a trailer is a sort of vehicle.

The rules likely to apply, especially for a cargo trailer, are those relating to legal ownership (certificates-of-origin etc.), and maybe braking/lighting requirements.

Dunno about import tariffs... do folks that buy from Canadian Escape have to pay any???

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Old 03-16-2013, 01:26 PM   #33
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I would be concerned about the carrying ability. RV's are not made for cargo. One can easily overload a travel trailer. They are designed to carry mostly air.
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Old 03-17-2013, 01:50 PM   #34
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The Shuttle trailer is an unknown in terms of fuel economy. Its shape is improved in front, but the edges are squared off rather than rounded. I would hypothesize that it will not do as well as the Snoozy. On the other hand, it's a lower investment and it seems reasonable to assume it will do somewhat better than a traditional trailer.

All things to consider and weigh in balance.

One question this raises in my mind is, why should the empty Snoozy be priced so much higher than a Shuttle of similar size? When they first began production, I asked the Smoaks and got an approximate cost, if memory serves, of over $9K. The 6x12 Shuttle is $5250. I wonder how much of that difference is in the cost of the 'sandwich' style molded body, and how much is in economy of scale (higher production of Shuttles)? Surely not markup..... well, I'll have to ask again, perhaps now that more Snoozys are being made the price of an empty shell will have come down. I tend to believe that interior build would be a substantial portion of the overall cost of manufacture, as it is labor intensive.
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:20 PM   #35
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I have a quote from the Smoaks and it is lower than the rough estimate I recieved when they first were starting up. I'm close to ordering one.

I have another question for Snoozy owners: what is the approximate height to step into the trailer?

I think Herschel or somebody got a bumper put on theirs, and it serves as a step. I'm trying to decide if I should get one of those.
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:48 PM   #36
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Herschel has added a folding step to his:

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Don't know if this pic will give you any indication.

And here's another pic:

http://lilsnoozyclub-com.webs.com/ap...toid=169410449

Home page showing Herschel and Darlene in the pic:

http://lilsnoozyclub-com.webs.com/
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Old 03-30-2013, 10:34 PM   #37
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Just judging from the low-angle front-quarter view on the Snoozy site, it looks like the top of coupler / top of frame / bottom of body is about 18 inches off the ground. Depending on the floor thickness and any lip at the threshold, the step in could be an inch or two more than that. Owners or Smoakin' can provide a more accurate answer, but that's a starting guess.

This is more than twice the rise of a typical staircase step, so something better than just stepping up from ground level seems appropriate. A pickup truck-style step bumper could provide one step, with a fold-down or portable step below that. The folding step looks good, but I find a common aluminum folding-leg portable step provide a very stable and large stepping area, below our motorhome's built-in steps when site conditions make the first of those too high.
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I was thinking a custom "ramp" would be nice.
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I have been getting in and out of my old cargo trailer with its 17" high threshhold for years, so if it's about the same I can keep doing it. But I sometimes think a step would be nice.
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I like the portable step as suggested by Brian. I bought one of these early on to help my aging Mom get in and out, and have found it really handy for all kinds of uses even when not being used as a step. Holds three hundred pounds, folds flat, and sells for less than twenty dollars

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The camping models come with a stool as in this earlier picture of Herschel's. Anyway I think they do.

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I think that's Herschel looking in the back of his truck.
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I have a couple of the folding plastic steps shown by Francesca; they are sturdy and inexpensive. What I prefer is a larger and more stable aluminum folding step - a larger area seems like a good idea for someone stepping in an out while carrying a box or bin.
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