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Old 12-20-2014, 11:51 PM   #15
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The kids that are at the biggest disadvantage are those who learned to drive from their parents, rather than from a driving instructor.
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Old 12-21-2014, 12:09 AM   #16
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The kids that are at the biggest disadvantage are those who learned to drive from their parents, rather than from a driving instructor.
That may be true in many cases Glenn. I started driving when I was 9 with my Dads instructions and at 15 with an instructor. Funny thing was he didn't add anything to what I had already learned. His biggest comment to me was "I can tell you've had driving experience". I really had a hard time from laughing out loud, yup, six years and only wanting to make it legal now. I taught my girls in the dune buggy in the desert. By the time they got to the pavement they had a good handle on car control and only had to learn dealing with traffic and such.
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Old 12-21-2014, 02:40 AM   #17
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Does all this smartness allow the drivers to be less smart? I retired because I wasn't smart enough to fix the new trucks.
Hi: mary and bob...I retired because at 64 I knew how to drive a transit bus. At 65 I needed to be tested, and I don't do well at skill testing questions!!!
As for my vehicle being smart... the "Service Engine Soon" light has come on, been fixed, come on again, been fixed again, come back on again, and been fixed...yet again. Now that's really "Dumb"!!!
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Old 12-21-2014, 08:00 AM   #18
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Save a whole bunch of money on tools to work on vehicles these days. I just donated a lot of mine; haven't used a distributor wrench in over 20 years..........
Charlie... I can sure relate. Dwell meters, distributor wrench, etc are entering the Jurasic era. Can't even sell this stuff. Nobody wants or needs it.
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and what happens when the computers stop working??????? everything shuts down, perhaps our lives have become so dependent on the microchip that it has become our Achilles heel.....hhhmmmm
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and what happens when the computers stop working??????? everything shuts down, perhaps our lives have become so dependent on the microchip that it has become our Achilles heel.....hhhmmmm
A thought and it could happen. But for now the benefits are worth the chance of the dark side happening.
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Old 12-21-2014, 08:33 AM   #21
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Charlie... I can sure relate. Dwell meters, distributor wrench, etc are entering the Jurasic era. Can't even sell this stuff. Nobody wants or needs it.
Old goats like me still own and use those tools on old vehicles. Sometimes I wish everything was as simple as it once was back in the day. But even I have got spoiled with modern features. When I was shopping for a used truck to pull our new to us Casita I "Had to Have" power windows and mirrors and door locks. Yes I need less tools now because a lot of repairs I'll take to the dealer, they have the training and specialized equipment to diagnose and repair a problem. This is my first vehicle with the ignition key that is not an actual key, the salesman had to show me how to use it, DUH. I haven't bought a brand new vehicle since 1969, and still own it.
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A restored pre computer ride is looking better and better all the time.
I used to run a 1970 Morris Minor as my winter car when I was a motorcyclist and the only electronics anywhere on the car were inside the alternator that I had added to the car.

One day the engine just died and I could not find the cause so called out a roadside recovery service. As soon as the mechanic turned up, he beamed from ear to ear, delighted to be using old-fashioned spark-and-fuel fault finding. (I felt marginally less stupid when he located the fault as a break in the power wire to the coil inside the insulation.)

But even then just the alternator was a big step forwards from a dynamo in winter, so I'll vote for electronics happily. My current car has modern 'canbus' electrics where absolutely everything is controlled by the car's ECU (Norm, your Odyssey will be like this), so that the wiper switch just sends a message to the ECU and it is the ECU that supplies power to the wipers. And on my next car, I think I'll go for the full 'inadequate' package with video-controlled cruise and automatic parallel parking by sensors. I may even treat myself to a nice walking stick....
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Old 12-21-2014, 10:20 AM   #23
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As planned in 2014 we purchased a new car, a 2014 Honda Odyssey. I knew humanity was in trouble when our car was smarter than me.

Shortly after we purchased it I stopped at a store with Ginny. She ran in for a quick purchase and I waited in the car. She was back and in minutes and I attempted to turn on the car but got no response. The car knew the engine was running and unlike the old days when turning the starter on would cause a crunch with a running engine, I got silence. The carís engine computer was smart enough to know the engine was already running. The car was smarter than me, well aware of what it was doing, well aware of itís local environment.
That's a nice feature with Honda's, as the motors are so quiet, you can't hear them running.
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Soon the North Koreans are going to hack into your car and know what is happening in the back seat!
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and what happens when the computers stop working??????? everything shuts down, perhaps our lives have become so dependent on the microchip that it has become our Achilles heel.....hhhmmmm
Same thing that happened in the good old days of distributor caps - car stops working!
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I have this vision of our future world when all human life ends but the power source for computers continues and they (computers) just keep on doing their thing...interacting with other computers as if we all were still alive.....frightening thought....we have created a monster....remember "HAL" from 2001 a space odessey.....just one letter off from IBM in our alphabet....Hollywood was predicting the future even back in the 1960's......HAL now starts our cars and stops us before we crash!...Spooky new world we have created.
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....remember "HAL" from 2001 a space odessey.....just one letter off from IBM in our alphabet....Hollywood was predicting the future even back in the 1960's......HAL now starts our cars and stops us before we crash!...Spooky new world we have created.
Pat... I worked for "HAL" for 30 years and I still can't figure out how they can shoe horn 30,000 images into an SD card, which is no larger than a 25 cent piece.
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Mike, I was leary of the push button start, but after using it this year,
you would really appreciate it in your situation. I just have to remember
to have the key in my pocket when I leave the house..............

I have hit the start button once while it was running also. I was glad
that it didn't respond like the manual key would have done..................lol.

I have a 2002 Astro and the service engine light stays on. Been to several
garages and I just ignore it now. I had a 92 Astro that did the same thing.
Then the light bothered me so I put some black tape over it so I couldn't see it.

Mankind has nothing to worry about. I've read the book and we are here at
the end. I just feel sorry for those who won't know what to do without all
their gadgets. I pretty much do without them now and will do fine if they all
quit. So the hackers can hack away. I still know how to chop wood, make candles, saddle a horse,
and holler across the fence to the neighbors.
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