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Old 12-06-2012, 08:50 PM   #43
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The thing to keep in mind about an Escape, is that they don't start building it until after you order it. They have to work with their fiberglass molds, so they can't move the door or the wheel wells, but aside from that they'll change pretty much anything you want.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:07 PM   #44
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Hey, Theron!

Now that we've hashed the Escape over pretty well, I'd like to ask:

What are your reasons for eliminating its immediate ancestor the Trillium from consideration? It's currently being manufactured right here in the U.S.A., and I think that its early manufacturing difficulties have been worked out...And there's at least one member here who reached a very satisfactory resolution to some of those early-model problems.

Is it a matter of the wood cabinetry, or some other cosmetic/change in the mold difference that attracted you to the Escape instead?

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Old 12-06-2012, 10:01 PM   #45
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Hey, Theron!

Now that we've hashed the Escape over pretty well, I'd like to ask:

What are your reasons for eliminating its immediate ancestor the Trillium from consideration? It's currently being manufactured right here in the U.S.A., and I think that its early manufacturing difficulties have been worked out...And there's at least one member here who reached a very satisfactory resolution to some of those early-model problems.

Is it a matter of the wood cabinetry, or some other cosmetic/change in the mold difference that attracted you to the Escape instead?

Thanks!

Francesca

I remember looking at the Trillium, it looks great! But they only make a 13' model? For my longer term needs, and traveling with a friend, a 16' or 17' will fit the bill better.

What I do like about Trillium is they list their prices right up front on their website.


Another rad looking trailer I ran into during my research was Cricket:

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Old 12-06-2012, 10:06 PM   #46
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Thanks for the lead! It's cool to see other folks making trailers.

But I'm not sure their design/layout is deal for 2 adult friends traveling together for 10 months. What I like about the Escape is that it has 2 separate and adequate sleeping spaces.
All things considered I think you have made the right choice!
With that trailer and that truck, you will find significant fuel savings by keeping the speed under 60 and practicing moderate acceleration.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:10 PM   #47
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All things considered I think you have made the right choice!
With that trailer and that truck, you will find significant fuel savings by keeping the speed under 60 and practicing moderate acceleration.
4 pages of responses on my first post! Ya'll are a passionate bunch, digs it!
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:17 PM   #48
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I remember looking at the Trillium, it looks great! But they only make a 13' model? For my longer term needs, and traveling with a friend, a 16' or 17' will fit the bill better.
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I wonder if you're confusing the Trillium with another one of its Canadian offspring, the Outback.

The Trillium 4500 presently on offer is the immediate progenitor of the Escape model under discussion here.

And as for compatibility with a non-sleeping-with partner:
I can tell you from experience that it fits the bill admirably!



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Old 12-06-2012, 10:26 PM   #49
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I wonder if you're confusing the Trillium with another one of its Canadian offspring, the Outback.

The Trillium 4500 presently on offer is the immediate progenitor of the Escape model under discussion here.

And as for compatibility with a non-sleeping-with partner:
I can tell you from experience that it fits the bill admirably!



Francesca

You're right, I was mixing up Compact lightweight fiberglass Outback travel trailers Calgary | Trillium Trailers with Trillium RV | Vintage Style / Legendary Quality / Activity-Driven Design - I'm sure they know that folks will be confused by this?


It looks like Trillium RV makes a 15.3' trailer as their biggest option. (which was hard to find!) Their website reads at first that it's 4.5 meters.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:45 PM   #50
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It looks like Trillium RV makes a 15.3' trailer as their biggest option. (which was hard to find!) Their website reads at first that it's 4.5 meters.
You know, the exact dimensions of these two closely related trailers is a point of some confusion for me. I'm not sure whether both Trillium and Escape are measuring from the same point- whether the tongue is included, for example.

It may be that Escape has "stretched" the original mold, perhaps to accommodate the separate bathroom area that folks seem to require these days. This is inexplicable to me...in such a small space it seems more reasonable to ask someone to step out for a moment for privacy's sake than to add bulk/weight to avoid that necessity. This especially since it means dedicating precious interior space to purposes that can't occupy more than a half hour of any given day!

I do know that the T4500 in its original dimensions has proven eminently compatible with the various combinations of campers to come along since I got my (first generation) 4500 seven years ago.

I'd recommend a closer look!

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Old 12-06-2012, 10:59 PM   #51
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Hi: tjhva... You certainly picked a fine trailer in the Escape. Our 2007 5.0 is a 17 on steroids. Double bed/dinette in back and a queen sized bed in the loft. You already have the pickup so a good hitch shop can set you up.
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Alfred, a little off subject but how does the 5.0 do for warmth in cold country?
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Hi: Ken Jr... The only problem I have is the floors are cold. A few well placed mats take care of that. Once in bed it is usually warmer in the loft and we always leave the MaxxFan open and/or running on low. The 10,000BTU furnace does a wonderful job with ear plugs. The new furnace Reace is using draws less power and puts out less noise... I hear!!!
There's always double insulation and double pane windows available+ spray foam ins. on the trailer bottom. Those options weren't avail. when our 5.0 was built.
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It may be that Escape has "stretched" the original ( Trillium ) mold

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Where did you get the information that the Escape used a Trillium mold?
Escape did have a plan to build the Trillium for Trillium and to market it ( as well as the established Escape line ) a couple or three years ago, but that obviously didn't go anywhere.
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First go to the local RV dealer and look. The appliances, accessories, trim, windows, bathroom fixtures, ect. are all common to fiberglass trailers. In general expensive but not as durable as you would like. Pay attention to fit and finish. In any event DON'T BUY ANYTHING!!!

Both Escape and Casita owners are passionate about their trailers and tend to lose some objectivity. With Casita you buy what is listed. They apparently are not open to customization. If you want pink cushions, you are on your own. But this time of year a Casita 17 is quite reasonably priced (16k?) so adding the pink cushions yourself might be worth it. Also not much of a wait time in the winter. To the cost of the Escape add in about 5% fee to exchange your U.S. dollars on top of the current exchange rate. Banks on both sides of the border get a cut. Contrary to what has been said, Escape will not let you get anything you want. Make sure you know exactly what you are getting (windows were our issue). But the pink cushions are fine, though you will most likely need to supply the fabric. Because the owners take an active role in the manufacturing, the fit and finish is very good. Also any problems are taken care of. Charging a premium price, they can't afford unhappy customers.

As for Trillium, I would have been far better off buying an old one and fixing it up. Nuf said on that. Happy shopping, Raz
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A couple of things on the Escape 17B. While the dry weight is 2100 lbs, my actual weight packed for a long trip is 3100 lbs. This includes many options, dual propane & dual 6V batteries (on rear bumper), AC, etc. I travel with 1/3 a tank of fresh water & empty black & grey. I do have the front storage box. I have to work at keeping tongue weight under my RAV4's limit of 350 lbs. With full propane tanks I'm at 340 lbs.

As to the choice of trailers; I spent over a year researching what I was going to buy & the Escape 17B came in well ahead of the others. After 33,000 miles towing, I'm very happy with the choice!
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:44 AM   #56
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First go to the local RV dealer and look. The appliances, accessories, trim, windows, bathroom fixtures, ect. are all common to fiberglass trailers. In general expensive but not as durable as you would like. Pay attention to fit and finish. In any event DON'T BUY ANYTHING!!!

Both Escape and Casita owners are passionate about their trailers and tend to lose some objectivity. With Casita you buy what is listed. They apparently are not open to customization. If you want pink cushions, you are on your own. But this time of year a Casita 17 is quite reasonably priced (16k?) so adding the pink cushions yourself might be worth it. Also not much of a wait time in the winter. To the cost of the Escape add in about 5% fee to exchange your U.S. dollars on top of the current exchange rate. Banks on both sides of the border get a cut. Contrary to what has been said, Escape will not let you get anything you want. Make sure you know exactly what you are getting (windows were our issue). But the pink cushions are fine, though you will most likely need to supply the fabric. Because the owners take an active role in the manufacturing, the fit and finish is very good. Also any problems are taken care of. Charging a premium price, they can't afford unhappy customers.

As for Trillium, I would have been far better off buying an old one and fixing it up. Nuf said on that. Happy shopping, Raz

If the Casita's actually are $16,000 out the door I'd be interested. I'll give 'em a call here soon
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