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Old 10-18-2014, 11:45 AM   #155
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For the spare tire mount we are looking into two options: a "cinch tight" swinging bracket, along the lines of the test set-up shown earlier; and a hoist-style, typically seen used under truck beds, and, as I've learned, often used under trailers.

Following up on Norm's comment about the real-world infrequency for a spare tire, as well as its added weight, we did consider not including one. But ultimately decided it better to provide a full-size spare, just in case...
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Old 10-18-2014, 11:58 AM   #156
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Robert,

I agree a spare is necessary. There are too many places people travel where there is absolutely no tire source and no supporting traffic.

I do believe it belongs outside the trailer.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:22 PM   #157
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Our very first unit will be the test platform for all of our assembly procedures going forward. A fixture inside the trailer holds the top shell in the exact position, while "cleko" fasteners temporarily cinch the two parts together. (After we've worked out and dialed in the assembly details, these clekos will not be necessary — the shell parts will be bonded together with adhesive and FG/resin.)

While this first test may look a little crude, the process is necessary to discover and resolve any issues.

The rough cut-outs in front and along the sides were made to help maneuver the top shell into position. The last image suggests the location of the windows.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:39 PM   #158
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Again, the Nest body shell is comprised of three major components — top, bottom and rear "cap." And the rear cap includes the entry door. The door is 6' tall and 2' wide. Above the door you can see a recessed area for an combo brake light/ID bar/porch light.

Notice the integrated pockets for the door hinges. No surface-mounted hinges.

Not yet shown are the FG taillight components that will wrap around and mount to both the lower shell and the rear cap.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:53 PM   #159
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What brand of car comes without a spare?
Norm, I was curious about that too. A quick Google came up with this list from consumer reports.

Here’s a list of cars we’ve tested that came with an inflator kit instead of a spare tire...

Acura RLX
Audi TT
Buick LaCrosse
Cadillac CTS
Cadillac SRX
Cadillac XTS
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Malibu
Chevrolet Spark
Chevrolet Volt
Dodge Caliber
Dodge Dart
Fiat 500
Ford C-Max
Ford Focus
Ford Fusion
Ford Mustang
Honda Accord
Hyundai Accent
Hyundai Elantra
Hyundai Sonata
Hyundai Veloster
Infiniti G
Kia Forte
Kia Rio
Kia Soul
Land Rover Range Rover Sport
Mazda MX-5 Miata
Mitsubishi i-MiEV
Nissan Leaf
Porsche 911
Porsche Boxster
Porsche Panamera
Scion iQ
Smart ForTwo
Toyota Prius
Volvo C70
Volvo S60

I find this disturbing. Just a sign of our times, I suppose.
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Old 10-18-2014, 01:08 PM   #160
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Next you will be trying to tell me that these cars also do not come with starting cranks either....
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Old 10-18-2014, 02:34 PM   #161
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Keep that thumb tucked in while cranking, Andrew.

About the spare tire: trailer design is one game in which a spare is far better than a strike.

About those temporary holes: you actually may be onto something with those long, narrow front slits. Do you see how they look like eyes on the trailer? It looks really cool that way! I don't know if you are designing a shield for the front window, but if you are, you should paint or apply vinyl on the shield to approximate this look! You already have a nose cone planned. Eyes, nose... this could look really interesting.
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A link to an old article, but probably still valid. Add some other sports cars, too...
New cars sold without spare tires: Automakers sell more cars without spare tires - Los Angeles Times
Everything from Hyundais to BMWs. I'll look around and see if I see something more current. I remember one in 6 or one in 7 cars had no spare, or a charge for a spare as an option.
I'm not saying it's a good idea. I don't like it either. Really was a huge hassle for my SIL, and I felt very bad for her. Her daughter had never had a flat, and never even thought about it. She had no idea till she was stuck on a desolate stretch of highway, with bad cell phone service, alone.
I know new tire technology is a lot better than the old days, when my dad wouldn't let me drive the truck without knowing how to change a flat, but I also know I wouldn't like to be on a lonely road with no spare when one of the new tech tire picks up a nail and blows out.
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Old 10-18-2014, 06:04 PM   #163
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Back to the original thread, I love the look of the Nest. Very nice. The colors are gel coat, not paint?
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Old 10-18-2014, 06:51 PM   #164
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Yes, gel coat, though we are experimenting with color options right now. For those that want it, we hope to offer tow vehicle color matching as an option, but that necessitates a paint job.
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Old 10-22-2014, 08:43 PM   #165
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Building continues... Our first "test" unit now has the major shell components "glued" together. And as you can see, the axle/wheel assembly and towing delta have also been bolted to the cabin.

The trailer as you see it now weighs 860lbs.

FG components still to come are the nosecone, wheel flares and entry door.
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Smile Spare Tire

A couple of tire stories:

A Studebaker test track. One test was a grade. The car wouldn't go up the grade unless the spare tire was in place. Take out the spare and the rear tires slipped.

My first car was a 1959 Triumph TR10 Estate Wagon. It had the best spare tire storage I have ever seen. The rear had a door and when opened you saw the cargo deck for your stuff and below the deck a pocket for the spare. It was out of the way, easily accessible without having to unload the cargo, and stayed clean! It sure beat my 1977 Jeep Cherokee with the tire underneath and filthy like you wouldn't believe, if the mechanism for lowering it worked!

Maybe the Nest could incorporate a step and spare tire pocket behind the entrance door.
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Old 10-23-2014, 05:42 AM   #167
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That prototype is looking very nice indeed. I probably missed or forgot it, but have you announced a "target" gross weight? At the current weight of 860# stripped, do you still expect to make it? I'm guessing that with the heavily layered and reinforced lower "tub" you have a very stable package right now with the center of gravity almost down at the axle level. It should tow like a dream.

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Old 10-23-2014, 06:41 AM   #168
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Robert,
I love your attention to details, like the door hinges!!
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