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Old 11-12-2014, 08:40 PM   #211
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No microwave for me. I am mostly off grid. I would rather have the storage space. But, if was just an option, I bet some would like it.
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:48 PM   #212
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Robert:

For what's it worth...

Q1: A sink is a must and I would choose it over a cooktop.

Q2: All of our cooking (other than morning coffee) is done outside. I don't want to deal with the mess and smells of cooking inside.

Q3: no idea on the "best" refrigerator. However, I would want a straight 12v /110v system. Our next camper will be all electric - no propane.

How were you planning to incorporate the A/C unit into the Nest?

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Old 11-12-2014, 10:18 PM   #213
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I'd make a cabinet "microwave ready" standard - as in AC there, and make a door for the space optional if the user wanted only storage.

Many are electing to go with combo microwave/convection or toaster ovens instead of a plain micro - which can be picked up for less than $100 anywhere. Why carry the inventory?

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Old 11-12-2014, 10:35 PM   #214
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Combining questions #1 & 2.....
Having upgraded from a pop up camper to a fiberglass camper the one thing I do miss is the cooktop that can be transferred from inside to the outside. I could make coffee inside in the morning and cook dinner outside at night freeing up counterspace in the camper.
A more elegant design could be quite the feature!
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:50 PM   #215
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Hi Robert,
Q1, a sink
Q2, very little cooking inside
Q3, no expirience with these, I only use LP, but they do seem to have good reviews. I have no idea how the cutout sizes differ between this 12v unit and a 2/3 way unit but it may be a nice option as a number of folks here don't like LP.
Microwave, an automatic option. You get the oven or the storage space as you see your needs or wants. The space used is still the same just trimmed out differently. As far as a certain brand, no preference.
BTW, thanks for asking.
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Old 11-12-2014, 11:13 PM   #216
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Thanks for the opportunity to provide some feedback. I actually just returned from a quick trip with friends in their Trillium, so have some recent perspective.

1. More counter space near the sink rather than the stove. As noted, it's nice to have room to pile up dirty and clean dishes and the surface can serve as food prep too.

2. We cooked inside quite a bit on the recent trip, and always cooked in our camper van. Eating outside is awesome, but we don't mind cooking inside at all.

3. Vitrifrigo makes an awesome product. Isotherm is another high-end brand that also makes a drawer style unit. Truckfridge makes a cheaper unit. All three use the same danfoss compressor. If I had to pick, I'd go Isotherm. Check out their ASU units - the compressor runs extra-time when there's charge voltage to cool thermal plates to reduce compressor cycling once on battery alone.

4. No microwave - unnecessary power draw without any particular use for our needs.
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Old 11-12-2014, 11:21 PM   #217
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More space near the sink is what I like. We do all our cooking indoors with an SMEV propane stove, as the glass top can also be used for counter space.
I have owned a Novakool (pictured) as well as a Truckfridge 12 volt only. The Truckfridge has a light inside that I like....they both preform well. We do have a microwave for the first time, but it is easily removed if we would rather have the extra space, but we have plenty of storage elsewhere.
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Old 11-12-2014, 11:25 PM   #218
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Forgot the microwave picture.
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Old 11-13-2014, 07:18 AM   #219
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Looking for more of your excellent feedback regarding design and options...

Question #1:
If forced to make a choice, where best to provide the most counter space: with the cooktop, or the sink? I would prefer the extra counter space next to the sink.

Question #2:
How much cooking is actually done inside your compact trailer? Very little "traditional" cooking but lots of mircrowave use if on shore power.

Question #3:
Best 12VDC refrigerator? And by "best" I mean most efficient and nicest looking. (We've recently discovered the Vitrifrigo product line. Beautiful designs, but very expensive. Any one with experience with these refrigerators?) I have no first hand experience but based on availablity, price, and the experiences of others here I plan on purchasing and putting the larger Truckfridge in my Scamp early next year to go with my solar and battery upgrade.
And thanks for asking!
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#1 - I'd like the extra counter space between the sink & cooktop.
#2 - The only time I cook inside is when the weather forces me.
#3 - I don't care all that much about "Beautiful" design, but I do want a good size freezer, and room for a reasonable amount of stuff. My current refrigerator is 5 cubic feet, and I use the extra room to avoid extra trips to resupply.
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Old 11-13-2014, 09:51 AM   #221
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Having the wiring in place for a microwave makes sense to me. As solar gets cheaper, microwaves may become more common in campers. In my Trilliums, I would hang the microwave from the upper kitchen cupboards, above the sink. The trouble is that I don't have a 120VAC outlet there.
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:47 AM   #222
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Answers to your Big 3

1. Workspace between the sink and cook top would be best, but fitted covers, with a dedicated storage space for both the cooktop and sink could be a second idea.

2. We cook inside almost all of the time. The only outside cooking would be over an occasional campfire.

3. A 2 way (LP/120VAC) refrigerator trumps the best electric only refrigerator. An electric only refrigerator will be a negative for any that boondock.

4. Microwave ovens are a consumable appliance. Provide space for one with a plug, and a door than can be installed to use the space for storage. I used to have one in several previous FGRV's and don't miss having one at all.
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:51 AM   #223
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Looking for more of your excellent feedback regarding design and options...

Question #1:
If forced to make a choice, where best to provide the most counter space: with the cooktop, or the sink?

Question #2:
How much cooking is actually done inside your compact trailer?

Question #3:
Best 12VDC refrigerator? And by "best" I mean most efficient and nicest looking. (We've recently discovered the Vitrifrigo product line. Beautiful designs, but very expensive. Any one with experience with these refrigerators?)
Q1 More space around the sink than stove.

Q2. We cook breakfast every day in the trailer. Any bacon odor dissipates shortly.

Q3. Don't know 12 volt trailers. Can't imagine not having propane, no propane you need a heck of a lot of solar panels.
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Old 11-13-2014, 12:31 PM   #224
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#1 I prefer more counter space next to the sink. However, if the sink and stove are next to each other, no big deal.
#2 I almost always cook in my trailer.
#3 I love my propane refrigerator and a a 20 lb bottle seems to last almost forever. Trying to run a refrigerator on 12V seems like it would pretty much limit your opportunities to places where you have electricity or force carrying a generator.
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