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Old 11-14-2014, 03:16 PM   #239
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Looking for more of your excellent feedback regarding design and options...

Question #1:
If forced to make a choice, where best to provide the most counter space: with the cooktop, or the sink?

Sink we use the sink every day and since no water heater we boil water on the cook top when we need hot water. My pet peeve with the Scamp there is no provision to keep water on top of the cabinet. Sink is close to the bed with no berm on the top cabinet to keep water from running down the side where the bed is. Minor issue but it shouldn,t be that way.

Question #2:
How much cooking is actually done inside your compact trailer? Almost none but when we do its usually with 120 volt using the new wave oven. No smell or mess in the trailer to clean up or worry about. Provide 120 volt close to the cabinet top. recess the cook top so with a flat cover you have much better counter space. we also use a cover over the sink.

Question #3:
Best 12VDC refrigerator? And by "best" I mean most efficient and nicest looking. (We've recently discovered the Vitrifrigo product line. Beautiful designs, but very expensive. Any one with experience with these refrigerators?)
No experience but if stuck with a 12 volt only refrigerator you best have a pre-wired complete plan for solar to accommodate it. I prefer to run with propane since most of our camping is with no hook-ups. This if properly planned for could be optional depending on customer purchase you just have to plan for it.

My Question #4 What are your plans for an awning over the back door? As I see it now you will be stuck using an easy-up to cover over the door. Too elegant a trailer for that. I picture a self contained roll-up much like window shades with a couple of side polls. Is a person needing to have 2 pop-ups one for the back and one for the side? Out here in the west we almost always put out our bag awning or easy-ups. Too much sun and most campgrounds don't have shade at every site.
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Old 11-14-2014, 05:04 PM   #240
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Have had both 3 way (absorption) run primarily on propane and 12 volt compressor type before solar became common or affordable. The compressor type was pretty good, got cold faster, and switched automatically to using shore power if I was at a site that had it. But it did make a large demand on my battery bank so planning for how many amp hours of battery storage you need and solar panels to keep up should be a big part of your planning. Unless you over capacity your solar rig you might want to even think about a small generator otherwise you risk finding yourself with flat batteries and food getting warm or hauling a lot of solar capacity as insurance that won't happen.

Propane just worked and ran forever on a tank so for extended camping that would be my choice.
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Old 11-14-2014, 05:11 PM   #241
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Roger, was the 12 volt ref. You used a "danfoss" style compressor?
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Old 11-20-2014, 10:44 PM   #242
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Thanks to all for playing at home! We will do what we can to comply with the general consensus:
1. Max space around the sink.
2. Pre-wire for an optional microwave.
3. Danfloss compressor 12vdc refrigerator. (No LP hassles, or ugly through-shell wall venting required!)
4. Pre-wire for solar power options.
5. Accommodate "light" cooking inside.



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Old 11-21-2014, 01:06 AM   #243
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Thanks to all for playing at home! We will do what we can to comply with the general consensus:
1. Max space around the sink.
2. Pre-wire for an optional microwave.
3. Danfloss compressor 12vdc refrigerator. (No LP hassles, or ugly through-shell wall venting required!)
4. Pre-wire for solar power options.
5. Accommodate "light" cooking inside.

Robert we should be thanking you for asking for our ideas/comments and you concidering and using some of them. Kind of makes me feel like we have had a small hand in this new design . As the moulded market is a pretty small market, long time moulded owners have a bunch of expirience with them and real world user time of what works and what really doesn't very well. No RV is going to be perfect for everyone but I think by asking for input from this market you're a big leg up with the Nest.
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Old 11-21-2014, 04:13 AM   #244
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Smile Our experience

1. We have a Cramer stove/sink combo.


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Stove cover up.
In the morning, we have our toaster oven on the sink cover while heating water for tea on the far left burner.

Both covers up
When doing dishes, we heat water in our biggest pot over the front burner, pour part into the sink with detergent, wash the dishes in the sink and use the pot for rinsing.

2. We do breakfast, if the park doesn't provide coffee and bakery, which more are doing now.
We will heat soup, and make a meal occasionally.

3. I often thought a microwave would come in handy.

While looking for Cramer, I found this:

Compact Kitchen with Stove, Refrigerator, and Sink

Looks interesting


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$823 where the Cramer is $709. But wonder if it could take RV duty
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Old 11-21-2014, 08:22 AM   #245
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1. We have a Cramer stove/sink combo.
We have that same one, put in by Escape, and love it. The sink is just big enough to put our largest plates or pots in, the stove works good, but I will it was only a two burner, and heated water faster. Getting the extra counter space with lids closed is bonus.

I have never heard it called a Cramer though. It was originally a SMEV stove/hob combo, and now mostly referred to as a Dometic, as Dometic bought out SMEV. Maybe it is made by them, but allowed to be resold under another name?
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Old 11-28-2014, 07:13 PM   #246
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Finally got our first set of molded fiberglass wheel well flares delivered and mounted to the trailer. Very happy with the the fit and finish, as well as the aesthetics. They look very cool!

Also, concurrently hand-fitting the interior with fixture templates. Measurements and calculations from these templates will be "digitized" by the cabinet maker for the programming to run their CNC cutting machine.
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I'm liking this more and more each day.......
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Old 11-28-2014, 09:41 PM   #248
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Anything Robert does is a class act. I have seen two of Roberts trailer rebuilds. The trailers were better than the day they were made.
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Those flares give a touch of elegance............
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One more suggestion Robert (as if you need any more) can the Fulton jack be turned 90 degrees, this can allow more room at the tongue for clearance of tailgates.
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1. We have a Cramer stove/sink combo.

Attachment 78743

Stove cover up.
In the morning, we have our toaster oven on the sink cover while heating water for tea on the far left burner.

Both covers up
When doing dishes, we heat water in our biggest pot over the front burner, pour part into the sink with detergent, wash the dishes in the sink and use the pot for rinsing.

2. We do breakfast, if the park doesn't provide coffee and bakery, which more are doing now.
We will heat soup, and make a meal occasionally.

3. I often thought a microwave would come in handy.

While looking for Cramer, I found this:

Compact Kitchen with Stove, Refrigerator, and Sink

Looks interesting

Attachment 78744

$823 where the Cramer is $709. But wonder if it could take RV duty
Does this unit come in a "left handed" version? That is, can you get it with the sink on the left?

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