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Old 07-09-2003, 09:52 AM   #1
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never lucky!

Well, I quit!!! I don't want to talk to or see another person about my Class A again! I had people come in from Maryland -- can't even begin to tell you how awful. First they wanted to give me personal checks and use MY plates to take it home. I said no, so they said they'd get cashier checks and bring plates. Then they get here, and to be nice I made them a steak dinner and let them stay in the Allegro over night in my driveway. Big mistake. In the am, I go out there and now the electric is screwed up. I have no idea what happened, but something happened during the night and its fried.

So they test drive, say they like it, but I need to get the electric fixed (that makes sense, no arguement from me there, I wouldn't have bought it either). They fly home, I take it in. I end up replacing the house batteries (drained when the electric was fried) and doing a bunch of other little things they wanted. Then they email me and say they want me to pay for half their airfare AND promise to pay any bills relating to fixes once they get it back to Maryland (since when do private sellers offer warrenties?? Go to a dealer!). The dash AC isn't too cold, so I say I'll pay up to $500 on any fixes relating to the dash AC (the overhead is fine), but that is it. Of course then they don't want it and I'm glad to send them packing. Now I've got to mail some of their stuff they left in it back to them. GRRRRRR!

Who buys something long distance and expects the seller to pay their travel costs? Very odd.

Anyway, I'm done with it. I'm going to take it to a dealer and trade down to a trailer and take what I get. I will never, never, never sell anything to anyone again as long as I live. I'll save my money and in a few years trade up to a brand new egg. So there!

Thanks for letting me rant!

Jane
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Old 07-09-2003, 10:04 AM   #2
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:weep Jane, I can hardly believe it! You have my deepest sympathy...

You are too nice. (Let them come get the junk they left behind. Or, better yet, pawn it to partially compensate for their damage to the electrical system. They probably plugged in a hair dryer while running the microwave, to see what would happen.) :o

You are right: you need to get out camping! Do whatever it takes...

Keep us posted. You can still be on our team... you still have an interest in molded fiberglass travel trailers! (Some of my best friends, including my parents, have stick-builts.)

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Old 07-09-2003, 10:10 AM   #3
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You could try ebay. If you describe it as best you can but still specify "as is" and either start the bid at your asking price, or set a reserve price you might do better than a dealer. You only risk the listing fee and can always take it to the dealer after if it doesn't sell. I agree with Mary, you are too nice.
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Old 07-09-2003, 12:10 PM   #4
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being a good neighbor

Jane, I sympathize with you. When I sold my 13 foter it was supposed to be as is. A young fellow was loooking at it, and he really wanted it but, he didn't want to have to fix stone chips, so I did.Then he didn't have a battery , so I gave him one, then he needed to see if the trailer was still shiny under a winters coat of glaze from sitting, so I washed and waxed it.
Then he could only afford 2500.00 so I let him have it. Then he wanted to borrow my plates and I said no. Then I made him sign the receipt for an as is trailer... and he almost backed out because I wasn't giving him 30 days to change his mind.
Eventually he took it home , and went out and bought a new truck, probably with the money he saved from me.

Moral: Stick to your guns, keep your price and don't make deals or concessions.
eventually someone will come along who wants it and you'll get your price
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Old 07-09-2003, 01:37 PM   #5
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Jane - What a rotten experience! Wow! I agree, though, that you don't have any obligation to return stuff to them that they left on your property. By law, I think in most states they have 90 days to retrieve their property, and then it becomes yours. You could reasonably accomodate them by shipping it back at their expense, with reasonable compensation for your time, effort and mileage. Certainly don't bear that cost yourself!

I had to make two 500 mile round trips to Kentucky to get my Scamp - the guy forgot I was coming and wasn't home. I felt at the time that it would have been nice if he had discounted the camper for my trouble, but he didn't offer, I didn't ask, and the bottom line was I wanted it anyway.
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Old 07-09-2003, 02:04 PM   #6
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thanks for all the support

Well, I'll be mailing their stuff back, since I don't want to hear from them again (LOL). I'm just hoping I can get a half way decent deal on a trade-down. Luckily I don't owe anything on the Allegro, so I can take a hit without too much grief.

Sounds like from the other comments here that selling rvs is not a fun thing anytime. I guess that's why people can make a living at it. If it was fun we'd all do it ourselves. It just amazing me, the whole thing amazes me.

The most ironic part was that I was planning on offering them a lower price and giving them money for some of their airfare, but when they started setting all these rules, I thought, no way. It's one thing for me to offer, another thing for them to demand.

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Old 07-09-2003, 02:58 PM   #7
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So Sorry!

Jane - I'm sorry to hear of your selling woes. What a dreadful experience. Glad you lived to tell the tale. I wouldn't mail them their stuff, though. If they do call, say it ain't there. Give it to charity. Try e-bay - you never know! We had a terrible time finding a used fiberglass. Most we did find were sold out from under us. We ended up buying new - no hassles - great service and they sent it to us, no trip to the factory. We will eventually sell our Airstream - but it will be AS IS - Buyer Beware - Take it or Leave it. We also have a stick built - but we never tow it anywhere - it's a fixture at our 'permanent campsite'. Nothing is like Fiberglass - it's built to last, with great structural integrity (which is sorely lacking in the Vintage Airstream :sad ) and will last so much longer than the greatest stick built (we'll be reusing those cabinets and doors on the barn interior before too long) So these were the worst buyers, it can't get any worse, right??:wave Keep us posted - we really want to know:wave
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Old 07-09-2003, 06:50 PM   #8
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My sympathies

Hi,:wave
All too often when we have someting to sell, someone wants to get us to pay them to take it off our hands. Unless you're hurting for money, take your Allegro to a reputable dealer and ask for a fair appraisal. Explain to the dealer that you wish to sell it, for a fair price based on its condition. Then make it clear to him that you would consider any leads he sent to you very favorably when you purchase its replacement unit. If he has something you want to buy, then you can talk turkey. I was reading in a book on used cars once that if you don't be firm. that you will feel like a fire hydrant with a lot of friendly dogs in ther neighborhood. Good luck, and remember that the purchaser isn't doing you any favours in buying it Cheers:cool
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Old 07-11-2003, 12:15 PM   #9
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Jane, it is too bad you are not near British Columbia. We saw the new Outback two weeks ago and I'll bet that dealer would take your class A in trade. The Outback is a 14' model much like a Trillium. They sell for about $16,000 Canadian (about $10,000 American)

Here's a pic:

<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f0ef095de443Outback 1.JPG/>

<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3f0ef0d16b79fOutback 2.JPG/>
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Old 07-11-2003, 12:38 PM   #10
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Jane:
I sell things for a living, and truly sympathize with you in this experience. One of the things I tell anyone selling a large ticket item is not to take the buyers weirdness personally. They are not out to get you or screw up your life or finances, only to totally protect themselves and they don't know a polite way to do that so they are stuck being jerks. It is totally not personal,think that , then let it roll off your back like water off a duck.
Some people have a need to squeeze every dime out of a deal, and the money is not the reason, it is getting the very best deal every time, sometimes I wonder about their childhoods. And it is still not personal, just their internal need.
Sometimes you need to put up a hard line right up front, then they think it is as far as they can push it so it must be the best deal.
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Old 07-16-2003, 08:48 PM   #11
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Find a dealer who will sell it. then you can decide what to buy. It doesn't sound right for you to trade it in for something you don't really want in the first place. Remember, last summer, I had mine sold for me. no hassle.
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Old 07-17-2003, 09:52 AM   #12
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feeling cheated

:wave Hi Jane, Send them a bill for the steak dinner haha Why don't you try to find someone:O wanting to go bigger that has a fiberglass and swap. Try it on all these fiberglass sites, it might work for you.:r
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Old 07-17-2003, 10:08 AM   #13
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Jane: If you take it to a dealer I have had my best luck totally fixing up any thing wrong(ie: the AC) and having it cleaned and waxed within an inch of its life before I show it to a dealer. Their "Buyer" will look at it and think he can put it out for top dollar with no effort from his repair department. This saves him time and money both so you can get a better trade.
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