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Old 08-25-2008, 09:04 PM   #15
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I like it!!!!!

It is great to see how progressive you are being in a product line that is usually quite stagnant! I think you are the only ones since the original Trillium company in Ontario that hears what the customers are looking for and react to it.

I know our dog will definitely appreciate the larger bed size.

I am sure there will be more than a few suggestions on some of the interior fittings as your design moves forward.

A couple for you to consider now...

If ordered without bunks, an OH cabinet above the dinette could be useful.

If the toilet is at the very rear of the trailer, a small moulded FG toiletries cabinet at the back above the toilet would also be quite useful and probably not get in the way. You might even be able to mould this into the upper portion of the shower liner itself, and just use a small coloured lexan or polycarbonate door on it to avoid moisture problems.

I know that the roof top A/C is a love/hate thing with many people. There is an AC / Heat Pump unit that would make a nice optional alternative and could be mounted in or above the wardrobe for those that had a preference of keeping the overall height lower.


By the way, it was good to meet you both and tour your shop when we were out west in July. I really like the fine details on how your units are put together, such as the reinforcing frame around the doors, and a properly moulded in mounting for the awnings as a starter. Of course, the #1 detail is that there are an absolute minimum of fastners protruding through the body. By the way, how did the exterior lighting experiment work out?
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:11 PM   #16
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Reace,

John and I loved the Escape trailer that we saw but could not buy one because there was not enough head room. We're happy with the Casita we bought a few years after you and I spoke, but would exchange it for your new, longer Escape if the layout were reversed.

The thing that we absolutely like best about the Casita we bought is that the wrap-around windows are at the REAR of the trailer. This means that when we back into a site, we have a view of whatever is at the back of the site (usually something pretty grand because we camp in state/national/county/provincial parks) rather than a view of the back of our tow vehicle or the back end of someone else's trailer.

We know whereof we speak because our first trailer had the sitting area/sleeping area at the tongue end and we moaned about it continually.

Were you to reverse the layout, we would leap to the Escape. Particularly as we are Canadians.

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Old 08-25-2008, 09:32 PM   #17
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Question: When you say "queen" do you mean an honest-to-God 80x60 inch queen or the smaller "RV queen"?

Suggestion 1: When I redid my PlayPac, I built it to fit a residential queen size mattress in the back. It was kinda big, kinda heavy and being behind the axle caused some minor balance issues - but it was an absolute indulgent dream to sleep on. Let me put it this way: I'm 6' tall and not small in any dimension. The main driving factor for me to go the "trailer" route rather than keep tenting it was comfort and slowly advancing back issues. I try to get a solid 8 hours of sleep a night if possible. In short: Bed comfort is a very important issue to me.

Suggestion 2: It's a major floorspace hog, but you might consider an alternative floor plan with a walk-around queen bed in the front. You can flank the bed at the head with skinny wardrobes and an overhead storage area. I think it's doable if the bathroom is rotated 90 degrees so it takes the corner and the current 'wardrobe' location. The main loss forced by the change is to the kitchen side where you're forced to drop it down to a much shorter length with the fridge under the stove instead of a larger fridge to the side.
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:37 PM   #18
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Reace,

I saw my first Escape (yours) at the Oregon Rally this year and must say I was impressed. To hear you say that a 19' is in the works, says a lot about your company, it listens to its customers.

My feedback is similar to Elisabeth's layout concerns. I too would like the sleeping/eating area in back for viewing purposes. Being from an area "slightly" warmer than Canada, I like the idea of the roof top AC unit. The bigger the better!

Good luck as you go forward!


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Old 08-25-2008, 09:49 PM   #19
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This version is still just preliminary stages and not set in stone. We are still kicking around another design that would leave the door at the front of the trailer. I will post an updated plan soon.
It would be great to see any other ideas for a 19' trailer you come up with. I is great that you are taking feedback from people on your ideas and not just coming out with something and saying "Here it is". Kinda like having a huge design team.
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The thing that we absolutely like best about the Casita we bought is that the wrap-around windows are at the REAR of the trailer. This means that when we back into a site, we have a view of whatever is at the back of the site (usually something pretty grand because we camp in state/national/county/provincial parks) rather than a view of the back of our tow vehicle or the back end of someone else's trailer.
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Old 08-25-2008, 10:17 PM   #20
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Yep, I like a rear dinette or "Living" area too, for the above reasons +...

It allows me to see what is going on in my site and around it easier. Last nite, I had a fire going, but was in and out of the trailer. I did not want to douse the fire because I was sitting by it intermittently. Having the living area in the rear allowed me to check the fire while inside, instead of getting up to peek.

The door in front also makes it more handy when hitching etc, as my storage for those supplies is inside the trailer. No walking too far back and forth.

In my 13, that was my only regret about doing the front dinette. My view was the road, not my campsite. With the dinette on the side as you have pictured, it would be a road view too.
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Old 08-25-2008, 11:05 PM   #21
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Yep, I like a rear dinette or "Living" area too, for the above reasons +...

It allows me to see what is going on in my site and around it easier. Last nite, I had a fire going, but was in and out of the trailer. I did not want to douse the fire because I was sitting by it intermittently. Having the living area in the rear allowed me to check the fire while inside, instead of getting up to peek.

The door in front also makes it more handy when hitching etc, as my storage for those supplies is inside the trailer. No walking too far back and forth.

In my 13, that was my only regret about doing the front dinette. My view was the road, not my campsite. With the dinette on the side as you have pictured, it would be a road view too.
I'm getting confused here. With just the two of us, the dinette at the back stays down as our bed and we use the dinette at the front. We have a great view out either end. For one, the tow is nearby, but not hooked up and for another we went to a semi-organized campsite on a lake. We had views of the trees and a view of the lake, depending which window you're looking out of. We had no view of a road.

Perhaps you could have plasma screens installed inside the windows and then you could tune into the view you want. I'm joking, of course, but really your view is where you've chosen to be.

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Old 08-26-2008, 01:01 AM   #22
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This plan is essentially an extended version of the 17' Escape. This will keep the door close to the front, keep large front and rear windows and offers a 4 person dinette. I'm leanin toward this one!
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:09 AM   #23
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I've been trying for years to get Casita to consider this unit, ....no luck.

Give a look, ....24ft with couch, dinette and full sized bed.
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Old 08-26-2008, 03:25 AM   #25
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While in the dreaming stage of design, how about a fore/aft position for the bed. Crawling over a soundly sleeping partner can be a real drag!
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I prefer this layout. I like the separation of the beds for when you have others staying with you.

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Old 08-26-2008, 06:59 AM   #27
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This version is still just preliminary stages and not set in stone. We are still kicking around another design that would leave the door at the front of the trailer. I will post an updated plan soon.

The unit is projected to have a dry weight of 2600 lbs.

As always, we offer pretty low introductory pricing for those early orders (not yet). I will add a standard feature list with pricing soon.

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I vote for the front door/rear bed version. Trailer looks wonderful. Any hope of a 1800 pound 15 footer that could be pulled by a 4 cylinder? Big gas prices and all...
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I'm in agreement with Kurt. I would prefer a bed that didn't require crawling over somebody to get in or out. That would be the deal breaker for me. Plus, for those who prefer single beds, having a single bed as an option might be enticing.
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