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Old 08-18-2012, 09:53 AM   #57
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We were just starting out on our vacation trip (first picture),thinking we had enough room to manage... when,rounding a corner, we were struck green with envy, seeing that someone had a trailer with even more room!(second picture)... So we just went home in shame and decided to go hiking instead (third picture)
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:23 AM   #58
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When we were researching we decided that a Bigfoot 21RB would be perfect but we stumbled upon and purchased a used 25RQ. I'm not versed on the projected Escape 21, except for this thread, but I hope it comes with a dry bath. I too prefer to have the bed in the back and a couch looking into the camper (subsequently out the back window).

IMHO, the molded fiberglass companies are really missing out by not having a 24-25ft fifth wheel. I'm thinking something like a modified version of the previous Bigfoot 24SL Class C. Throw in some descent basement storage with common high end features like heated enclosed tanks, dual pane windows, solid one piece shower... nice!

As for 4 season campers, I'd like to add that the dual pane windows and well insulated walls are beneficial during the sweltering summer months. Additionally, the extra width our Bigfoot has makes a tremendous difference.

I think it's great that Escape is venturing into a slightly larger unit for those of us who want them. I'm by no means an advocate for bigger is better but expanding their potential clientele is good business.

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Old 11-15-2012, 01:03 PM   #59
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Additionally, the extra width our Bigfoot has makes a tremendous difference. -John
John I believe it has been one of Escapes goals to try and keep the width of their trailers down. If the trailer is wider than the tow it can impact the wind drag/gas mileage.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:54 PM   #60
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....the extra width our Bigfoot has makes a tremendous difference....-John
My somewhat claustrophobic wife would agree with you - she even feels cramped in the 19' Escape. The 88" width and open plan of our EggCamper makes it the only molded fiberglass camper in which she feels comfortable, (she hasn't been in the Bigfoot, however).
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Having gone the motorhome route, they can never be big enough. First it was large units without slideouts. Now we're up to 45 foot motorhomes with 4 slideouts. The same thing has happen to fifth wheels, even Jim Harley's Lance had a slideout.

I suppose it's not unlike the housing market where houses have become huge, having rooms where only the occasional dust mop goes.

When we first started we met a couple with a 45' fifth wheel. They always had to call ahead to get reservations though I admit they did have a pullout electric piano over the fireplace, a separate sewing room and a large center island kitchen.

Of course all this size meant they were limited in where they could go. Equally well fuel was a concern and when we met them gas was less that $1 a gallon.

I guess it all depends what you want to do. I suspect that size is some how related to the amount you travel.

What do people want bigger trailers or more time on the road?

We are a couple that used to live in a very large house, now we find our small beach cottage too large and our small Scamp very cozy yet people we've met since we've gotten home still wonder how "Ginny" could manage in such a small space.

With our new Galaxy S3 phones I find that the computers we carry are less necessary and may not make the trip next year..... small can be good.

My preference for some of these manufacturers is that they would become more clever with their existing platforms.
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but I hope it comes with a dry bath. I too prefer to have the bed in the back and a couch looking into the camper (subsequently out the back window).
John, it will be a wet bath. Varying opinions out there, but I prefer this as the space saved can be put to better use for the way we camp. We rarely use the shower anyway.

I too prefer the bed at the back, especially if the door is at the front. I do not like the idea of walking past the quiet/sleeping area when coming in, and would rather have the bed at the furthest point from the door.

Two-foot-itis is a terrible disease among many RV'ers.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:11 AM   #63
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I think the wet bath is a bummer in a trailer of that size, but that's just me. We enjoy several water sports which results in a bunch of wet gear. When necessary, tossing that gear in the shower keeps it out of the way and contained. However, we do use our shower so it does become a pain now and then.

Norm, I agree that everything is expanding much like the average size of us Americans and that trailer size is directly correlated to travel style. It's the old Tortoise and Hare except there are no winners, just a different pace. Throw in the difference of full timing, weekender, two week tripper etc. add some sports... no algorithm will ever exist to sort it out.

Now, if we can get someone to fund us so we won't have to run a business while on the road we'd gladly trade into something much smaller like a Sportsmobile and we'll deal with a wet bath, narrower width... whatever!

Jim, I think <insert some big drug company name here> is working on a pill for two-foot-itis. Just beware that the possible side effects may include vision loss, loss of appetite, depression, suicidal thoughts, internal bleeding, sudden or a long drawn out painfully excruciating class action lawsuit inducing death. I spoke to my doctor and he recommends taking your chances with the 21 footer... gotta stay on top of stuff like that

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Jim, I think <insert some big drug company name here> is working on a pill for two-foot-itis. Just beware that the possible side effects may include vision loss, loss of appetite, depression, suicidal thoughts, internal bleeding, sudden or a long drawn out painfully excruciating class action lawsuit inducing death. I spoke to my doctor and he recommends taking your chances with the 21 footer... gotta stay on top of stuff like that

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Thanks for the warning, I shall be cautious.

Our wet stuff is not allowed inside, and usually gets hung up on suction cup hooks outside the door, under the awning. Those good suction cups get lots of use on the exterior.
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Our wet stuff is not allowed inside, and usually gets hung up on suction cup hooks outside the door, under the awning. Those good suction cups get lots of use on the exterior.
I need to look into getting some of those suction cups. Right now I normally set-up a clothes line by using some kayak bow and stern ratcheting rope tie downs. Our problem comes from leaving camp to explore. Nice kayaking gear has the tendency, especially lately, of walking away with some new found friend so we're reduced to tossing it in the shower until we return. Most places it wouldn't be a problem but lately, festivals have turned into a five finger free for all. At one event someone had their $1000 dry suit stolen from the awning of their RV while they were inside it, inside the RV not the dry suit!

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Yeah, that sucks when idiots feel they gain something by stealing your belongings. It is not just the cost to replace, but the hassle to do so, and the fact you can't do things as planned.

Kinda glad most of my camping is boondocking where there is no worries like this.

Those suction cups sure are great. Originally I bought some for use in the bath, but never really used them there much. Often we will have up to 6 lined up on the outside of our trailer. The really help with camp organization. Clothes, packs, dog leads, and so on are all neat and easy to find.
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Another alternative to suction cups are the removable plastic hooks. We use 4 to hold our awning on the roof. As well we have a simple clothes line that mounts on the rear bumper for wet towels and suits.
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:21 AM   #68
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From Honda: "For two days we have stopped in the Oregon Escapee park, there are unfilled sites, unusual for this time of the year."

What is the "Oregon Escapee Park"? I live in Oregon, and will soon have a new 19' model. Is this a place where Escape owners like to go?
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Gene, Escapee's are not affiliated with Escape trailers. It's an RV club/association: Escapees RV Club

The Oregon Escapee's park is in Sutherlin, Oregon: Timber Valley SKP
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Hi Donna...someone mentioned a great map for RVers and can't find the thread. I find your posts very informative and helpful. Thought you might know of one. Do you ever get over to the East Coast?

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