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Old 07-10-2008, 09:30 AM   #15
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Coons, possums, and the occasional coyote here (rural area east of Seattle). Oh, and lots of mice (not so many since we got our latest cat--she's definitely a Mighty Hunter).

Coons are the most brazen. Come right up onto the porch to eat the cat's food, and don't retreat very far when you go out to yell at them.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:59 AM   #16
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What happens if you shoot him?
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Old 07-11-2008, 10:30 AM   #17
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Like The Waco Kid told Sherriff Bart in Blazing Saddles (referenceing Mongo)

No, no. Don't do that. Don't do that. If you shoot him you'll just make him mad.

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Old 07-11-2008, 01:22 PM   #18
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What happens if you shoot him?
He'd die... n' if I got caught I'd go to jail!
I'm not for killing him at all... I just want him to not make my pond his home. Unfortunately I'm finding out I'm pretty powerless to do anything. He's too small to be considered a nuisance and it's big time against the law to trap & kill one in SC without a permit & out of season. You definately don't feed it...and throwing bait out is considered feeding.

The "Alligator Adventure"
phone #'s are all recorded messages and no one has returned a call. A biologist with the state DNR is suppost to get back with me. They may try to come get him and relocate him...maybe.

Meanwhile, we've had hard rains here the last two nights...I haven't seen the little critter.

BTW, someone asked where it's Mother might be...
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she's right here... The Waccamaw River. My property is next to the hardwood swamp that's part of it's floodplain.

If I've figured correctly, this is a juvenile that's been driven out by the Mother, who has now a new egg brood to care for. They lay eggs in early to late June which hatch in late August & September. Last years brood are driven off to keep them from eating the newborns.

As for them showing up where they're not wanted...they're like potato chips...you can't just have one. Eventually more will show up.

BTW if anyone would like to know more about the Waccamaw River, here's a link. It's one of our last Black Water Rivers, very beautiful, and well worth a camping trip.
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Old 07-13-2008, 08:54 AM   #19
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In some areas, it is illegal to trap and transport critters like 'coons because you might be moving a rabies-infected animal to a clean zone.
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:23 AM   #20
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You can always put a sign like this at your pond in case you don't get him:
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[quote]You can always put a sign like this at your pond in case you don't get him:
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Yeah, that'd work...then I could teach Buddy to read...

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Old 07-13-2008, 02:53 PM   #22
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You do need to get serious about having the your guest removed. You don't want to have one of these:


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Twenty eight foot one inch gator found in Lake Wiess about 90 miles north of Birmingham, AL.

in you back yard now do you?
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Old 07-13-2008, 03:21 PM   #23
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I'm keeping my eyes peeled...so far I haven't seen it since I first spotted it last wednesday.

To put that photo of the Birmingham monster in scale of what I've got, that front loader hoisting it up would be made by Tonka if it was hoisting the one out of my pond. It may be 1 1/2' if that.

I'm hoping it skee-daddled, I've been hunting it but with no luck.

Five years ago I had one about 5' long show up in the pond...he went bye-bye too.
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:09 PM   #24
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The worst part about that 'Bama Gator is that it resurrected itself in Texas...

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/wcgator.asp

and they sent the same Fish and Game guy to trap it again in exactly the same manner.

According to this site http://home.cfl.rr.com/gatorhole/, the record for an American Alligator is 19' 2" and even that is rare.

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The worst part about that 'Bama Gator is that it resurrected itself in Texas...

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/wcgator.asp

and they sent the same Fish and Game guy to trap it again in exactly the same manner.

According to this site http://home.cfl.rr.com/gatorhole/, the record for an American Alligator is 19' 2" and even that is rare.
Hi: Pete... WELL!!! They always have to have the BIGGEST of everything in TEXAS
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Old 07-16-2008, 02:48 PM   #26
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Here's a "Gator Update" from the Pond-a-rosa of Myrtle Beach...

Yep, the 'little booger' is still in the pond...saw him again at dusk last nite. He's cute, and curious, and no real threat yet. He's not even 2' long from tip to tail, but still looks fierce...and he barks. I'll get some photos of him soon.

Talked on the phone with a Biologist with the SC DNR, he's sending me a permit with a tag that'll allow me to take care of him legally. Looking at the latest SC DNR press release, they have a "Private Lands Permit Program" that gives landowners some leeway in handling nuisance alligators, although I've noticed that while they beat around the bush and never outright say it, to remove a nuisance alligator is to kill it.

They do specifically say that alligators cannot be relocated. And from my discussion with the State Biologist, I take that to mean that due to costs in resources and manpower, relocating alligators is not a option that the SC DNR does when called to attend to a nuisance alligator.

According to the biologist, he,(or she) is a young juvenile just out on its own, a yearling, looking for a safe pool away from the river, and away from bigger 'gators. He's no threat to anything larger than small fish or frogs, and it'll be years before he'd be big enough to threaten dogs or people. That's not to say I'm cotton to the idea of him staying in the pond. As much as I'm down there, and my dog is down there, he'll eventually lose his fear of me or anybody else and eventually become a threat. He may stay a guest for a season, but eventually I'd have to take harsh action. Better to catch him with a dip net now as a baby, than with a rifle shot as a larger juvenile.

In the end, it's my discresion what I do with that alligator, but if I intend to catch him and put him somewhere else, or outright kill him, I just better have that permit.

I wish Steve Irwin was still alive...

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Alligator sausage is a favorite in southwest LA.

Here's some more...

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Perhaps the SC DNR would like to attend the Tupperware party, or have it come to them. After all, the little guy is still too small to be much of a nuisance...

Good luck.
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