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Old 01-14-2017, 01:12 PM   #43
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It was not unusual for the fiberglass trailers made in years past to have the shells made by another company. They were then brought to the location where the body was put onto a trailer and the interior fittings were installed. Because they were made in two pieces they were often stacked up (as you would do bowls in your cabinet) for shipping which reduce the space required to move them from the fabricator to the final installation location. This is still a fairly common practice for a different facility to fabricate the fiberglass shells. There are still companies around who specialize in creating molds and doing the molding for people who design such products. These same companies often do production work for fiberglass boat hulls of varying sizes or fiberglass hot tubs and swimming pools. It makes sense for a small startup company to hire out that part of production versus trying to tool up for it and find skilled employees. Especially if the company is located in one of the states where wages are higher than in other locations. In addition there is an advantage to having a facility that is already set up and in compliance with the regulations governing the use of chemicals including storage, disposal, things such as air quality, drains, fire safety, etc. That is a big cost with a lot of time and labor for a small startup to get all sorted out and managed.

As to having the shells sprayed by robotics. That certainly is achievable but human labor will cost far less for a startup firm so robotics is not likely to happen for a small company unless they already have contracts for large quantity orders waiting on their production capability to increase. Technology cost for such equipment is generally going to need to be supported by very large firms with a lot of backers for the capital funds. Such fund raising of large amounts of capital for technology driven production pretty much requires a proven track record for this type of work. One current example of the ability to increase production levels for a fiberglass trailer is Airstream taking on the production of the Nest Caravan. They can pull in the financial backers that are needed.
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Old 01-14-2017, 06:05 PM   #44
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Little Guy distributed the T@B and T@G made by Pleasant Valley. Little Guy made the 4 and 5 wide teardrop trailers. Both Little Guy and Pleasant Valley are located in East Ohio about 30 miles from each other. In California, there is a Little Guy trailer that sells T@Bs, T@Gs, Merkets, and Little Guy 4,5 wide teardrops. I do not believe they are connected to the Ohio LG except to sell their products, but I could be mistaken. It has happened one or maybe two times before. Lol

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Old 01-14-2017, 06:42 PM   #45
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Well there goes the neighborhood. I have owned 2 little guy tear drops. We picked up our 2012 Yellow Silver Shadow form the factory in Ohio. We toured the factory. Pleasant Valley trailers built both Little Guy and Tab until last year.Little guy is back in the RV armpit of America... Elkhart Indiana. My guess is they will over saturated the market driving down the resale value if used FG trailers.

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Old 01-14-2017, 07:28 PM   #46
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BillE: I doubt it will drive down the resale value. With Escape eliminating the 13' and 15' and Casita also doing away with the 13', it appears that the small well built inexpensive trailer is being pushed out. Whatever we have today we should hang on too. I know I'm getting priced/sized out of the market.


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Old 01-15-2017, 07:56 AM   #47
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I have two trailers. An Escape 19 for travel and fun and a 35 ft stickie for an Arizona winter home. The stickie will be stored in AZ when not in use. Bringing the stickie from MI to AZ I averaged 8.5 mpg for 2100 miles. I get almost double with the Escape, both using the same Chevy Silverado. FWIW, I paid about the same for each. Pretty much what you or anyone has is a case of to each his own which, by the way, is a movie and song title from the 1940s.


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Old 01-15-2017, 10:42 AM   #48
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Pulling our Scamp13 at about 60 mph, we get roughly 22 mpg with both our 2014 Ford Escape and our 2016 Ford F-150 XLT 4x2 2.7L Ecoboost.

Without the trailer, our 2016 F-150 gives nearly 28 mpg at 60 mph and 26 mpg at 65 mph.

In a few months, I am hoping to find out what mpg the F-150 will deliver when pulling a 16 ft FGRV. 😉

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Old 01-15-2017, 10:59 AM   #49
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I think there would be more of a market or demand for the small 13' fiberglass trailers if the manufacturers marketed them more. Every one that has ever seen ours (other than at a ralley) has told us they have never seen one before but love the small trailer and like that it has no seams like stickies. We lucked up and got ours for $1600 and at the time could not afford a new one unless we financed it even a standard Scamp 13'. But I think that model is the most affordable fiberglass trailer for families on a budget that want a better quality product than a stick built.

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Old 01-15-2017, 06:00 PM   #50
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We pulled our 2010 EggCamper into a Camping World in South Alabama a year or so back to do a little shopping. The RV sales manager (as best I could tell) gave it a quick once-over and commented he could sell small fiberglass campers all day long if the home office would let him. Not sure if he was serious or just talking, but he sure sounded like he meant it.
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:41 PM   #51
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New news from Parkliner

Just FYI -

Yesterday, I attended the MidAmerica RV show in Kansas City.
Sadly, Little Guy was not represented at the show.
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I wish Parkliner well. If Little Guy actually brings trailers to the big RV shows, it could be a good thing for Parkliner and for FGRVs in general?

If the price had remained at $16,900 (or even $17,500?), I probably would have ordered a Parkliner last November.

The recent price increase pretty well killed my interest.
The base price of the trailer (with no stove and only and ice box) plus the several thousand dollars worth of options we wanted, just became too expensive.

We have very much enjoyed our Scamp13 Layout 1 + big bed for over three years now. However, especially when we have taken 2 or 3 grandkids along, we have wished for a little more storage space, a larger refrigerator, a little more counter space, a closet, and a bathroom.

Since we now have a fuel efficient Ford F-150 XLT 2.7L 4x2 truck that should be able to tow a larger trailer, we have been looking at 15/16/17 ft trailers.

Along with Parkliner, we looked Lil Snoozy, Escape 17B, and Scamp.

In the end, with the base price and our desired options and features, the Scamp16 Deluxe
came out the winner.

Of course, everyone has different wants, needs, and camping styles.
So, YMMV!

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Old 01-17-2017, 07:29 AM   #52
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...In the end, with the base price and our desired options and features, the Scamp16 Deluxe came out the winner.
Is this the official announcement, Ray? If so, congratulations! Which deluxe layout are you ordering? And most important of all... birch or oak?

I hope I may live long enough to introduce grandkids to Scamping. Enjoy!
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Old 01-18-2017, 08:41 AM   #53
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Jon,

Thanks! 😊

I didn't really plan on making any "official announcement" .... at least not before taking delivery of the trailer. 😉

Partially because we want/need sleeping space for 2 adults and (occaionally) a couple of grandkids, it will be a Layout A with sofa/bunk-beds instead of the front dinette. We think we prefer the medium wood tones of the oak interior. (Is there a significant weight advantage, or other advantages, to the birch interior?)

IIRC, I think we both thought that a Standard Layout 4 with the 54" bed might be close to our ideal trailer (if such a thing really exists?). This is as close as we could come to that sort of configuration.

Since this was originally a thread about Parkliner going to a dealer distribution model, if you want additional details, maybe you could send me PM with your email address and we could take any further discussion offline? 😉

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Old 01-18-2017, 02:31 PM   #54
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Wow!

It doesn't take long for people to doom and gloom a company and a great product into the grave!! Parkliner makes an announcement and BAM! they can't possibly succeed. Maybe they should have hired a clairvoyant to lead them down the road. Wow...just wow.
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Is this the official announcement, Ray? If so, congratulations! Which deluxe layout are you ordering? And most important of all... birch or oak?

I hope I may live long enough to introduce grandkids to Scamping. Enjoy!

Ray. I hope you enjoy your new Scamp. Enjoyed talking with you at Camp Snoozy.


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Shelby, sometimes the issue is how many nickels do you have to rub together and not longer term financial strategies. Financing will bring them more customers and probably younger customers.
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