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Old 09-07-2017, 04:53 PM   #15
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Be aware that "double hull" isn't what many people think it is.
Generally there is no increase in strength, no improvement in quiet and no improvement in insulation which can be attributed to the design.
Fabric or carpet is more tactilely pleasant and generally requires no more maintenance.
Either way, the difference is trivial for most purposes and boils down to aesthetic preference rather than anything significantly substantive.
So there's no need to narrow your search based on this one feature.
Totally disagree with you on the strength of a double hull . Th e strength is not in there being a mirrored double shell but on how tha interior shell is formed with all the interior cabinetry ,trolley roof and opposite formed curves.carpet may be pleasant for some and a pain for others .Ive stepped in some carpeted trailers at some rally's with the lingering smell of cooking smoke cigarette smoke and animals and couldn't wait to get out. If I camp in my trillium near a campfire the ensolite will smell for weeks. If I camp in the HC1 near that same fire I will never smell it again. No comparison in my opinion.
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Old 09-07-2017, 05:16 PM   #16
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well i am in the carpet cleaning biz and odor is not a problem if carpet is maintained professionally i own a casita and we have no odor but we also don't cook bacon etc in it or have animals
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Old 09-07-2017, 06:11 PM   #17
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Totally disagree with you on the strength of a double hull . Th e strength is not in there being a mirrored double shell but on how tha interior shell is formed with all the interior cabinetry ,trolley roof and opposite formed curves.carpet may be pleasant for some and a pain for others .Ive stepped in some carpeted trailers at some rally's with the lingering smell of cooking smoke cigarette smoke and animals and couldn't wait to get out. If I camp in my trillium near a campfire the ensolite will smell for weeks. If I camp in the HC1 near that same fire I will never smell it again. No comparison in my opinion.
I agree. I currently have a 1984 UHaul, which has the double hull and I LOVE it. If it wasn't for needing, yes needing AC, I would keep the UHaul and be a happy camper.
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Old 09-07-2017, 06:18 PM   #18
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Totally disagree with you on the strength of a double hull . Th e strength is not in there being a mirrored double shell but on how tha interior shell is formed with all the interior cabinetry ,trolley roof and opposite formed curves.carpet may be pleasant for some and a pain for others .Ive stepped in some carpeted trailers at some rally's with the lingering smell of cooking smoke cigarette smoke and animals and couldn't wait to get out. If I camp in my trillium near a campfire the ensolite will smell for weeks. If I camp in the HC1 near that same fire I will never smell it again. No comparison in my opinion.
I could never have accomplished anything in my life if I felt like everyone had to agree with me for me to right!Heck, As you likely know by now, I seldom even rely on consensus!
Like yours, my utility trailer doesn't hold odors much either, but come to think of it neither does my Scamp13.
Needless to say, I totally disagree with both of your premises,(or is it three?)at any rate it really doesn't negate either (any) opinion.
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Old 09-07-2017, 06:43 PM   #19
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well i am in the carpet cleaning biz and odor is not a problem if carpet is maintained professionally i own a casita and we have no odor but we also don't cook bacon etc in it or have animals
Your point is well made! And clean is often even better than perfume.

However...Ensolite is not carpet, neither is the marine fabric hull liner. Neither one is prone to odor absorption. Virtually any enclosed space can have an unpleasant odor if it is dirty enough. Have you ever had to enter a septic tank to repair it? Some of them are fiberglass!
Some folks (not me) even claim that fresh fiberglass outgasses for years.

Does anybody make bacon scented air freshners? They must be better than those evergreen tree things.
Right here at my desk I have a box of "Uncle Oinker's savory Bacon Mints", they make people think you've had a good breakfast!
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Old 09-07-2017, 06:46 PM   #20
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Old 10-30-2017, 11:30 AM   #21
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$29,988 (before taxes and fees of course)

Little Guy 2017 2017 PARKLINER 16
That price seems to be the base price, without options. I wonder what is included in the base price. When I ordered my 2017, it didn't include the flush toilet, awning, refrigerator, furnace, dual burner range, water heater, air conditioner, screen door, etc. Those were all options that you had to pay more for.
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Old 10-30-2017, 12:43 PM   #22
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Price

This is what happens when dealers get involve. Now it's a free market and prices will be all over the place. That's why mf campers are also so attractive cuz when u buy direct the price is the price. This lg thing ain't gonna work.
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Old 10-30-2017, 01:03 PM   #23
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30 grand for a 16 foot trailer, base price. Hmm, not for me. A new Escape 19 nicely loaded with options can be had for less than that to US buyers. Yeah, I know about the insulated hull, but to my mind it's overpriced for the size.
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Old 10-30-2017, 01:12 PM   #24
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The link says the manufacturer is little guy?
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Old 10-30-2017, 01:21 PM   #25
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30 grand for a 16 foot trailer, base price. Hmm, not for me. A new Escape 19 nicely loaded with options can be had for less than that to US buyers. Yeah, I know about the insulated hull, but to my mind it's overpriced for the size.
Way back when we ordered and then cancelled an Escape 15. Why? Not enough ventilation especially when it rains. Here in the Northeast there are no hookups so air-conditioning is useless. What works for some doesn't for others. We were going to look at the Parkliner, when the price was $17k but they never returned out email.
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Old 10-30-2017, 04:38 PM   #26
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That price seems to be the base price, without options. I wonder what is included in the base price. When I ordered my 2017, it didn't include the flush toilet, awning, refrigerator, furnace, dual burner range, water heater, air conditioner, screen door, etc. Those were all options that you had to pay more for.
You know this makes Escapes, Casitas, and Scamps look really Good, deal wise.
I toured one of these new Parkliners at the “ Eggshells on the Outter Banks Rally” that they had on display. Buetifull looking rig but not 30,000 before options buetifull. Little Guy Max, another real nice rig. Well thought out. But in the same price range, with maybe all the potential problems as other stick builds. Time will tell.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:44 AM   #27
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Little Guy built our previous camper T@B. We bought it new in 2013 and it served us well. But we could see short cuts that were taken and sloppy workmanship as we had it. It was our first camper so we learned a lot. When we first picked up the camper from the RV dealer the right side break lights on the camper wouldn't work. The dealership tried blaming it on our TV not being wired right, but we took it to a dealership near us and the camper was wired wrong! The potential future problems, leaks etc were extremely high. We sold it and will be picking up our new Snoozy soon. If I was considering a new 2018 Parkliner by Little Guy, I would go over one with a fine tooth comb just based on our past experience with their workmanship! Just my 2 cents.
Little Guy does not build T@B's, Little Guy was just a distributor of the brand, much like nüCamp now (NuCamp is owned by Pleasant Valley and is just their marketing and distribution arm). T@B's are still manufactured by Pleasant Valley at the same plant.

Members of my family own two T@B's one is a 2007 purchased new, the other is a 2015 purchased used (two years ago). Neither have had any real problems.

The 2007 has had its converted changed twice over the last 10 years, unknown if it was a fault in the converter or bad camp site (same owner took their new 2017 27' limited edition airstream on a trip and the camp connection went up in smoke and killed the converter), I think they just pick shady sites. The converter in the T@B is $130 and it took me 30min to replace.

The only real problem is that the jack is a very poor design, it uses a turn handle to hold it in place (you can adjust the height even before cranking it). It is prone to wiggle loose on the rood and drop down, ripping off the rubber tire when you are going high way speeds. Most people I see just use a chain or bungee cords to hold it up.

No leaks, no maintenance to stop leaks. Double layer windows, very nice heating and cooling system (I really like the coolcat heatpump they use).

No short cuts or sloppy workmanship. I have been very impressed with the T@B's quality.

They also have very good resale value. The 2007 was 13k when new, same model year goes for 10k now. New ones are pricey though, 20-22k is a lot for a little trailer.
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30 grand for a 16 foot trailer, base price. Hmm, not for me. A new Escape 19 nicely loaded with options can be had for less than that to US buyers. Yeah, I know about the insulated hull, but to my mind it's overpriced for the size.
Just out of curiosity.....
Here is the sticker price for a similarly equipped unit that has been quite favorabley recieved on this forum. What are your thoughts here?
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