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Old 03-25-2019, 07:25 AM   #1
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Anybody put a 5th wheel hitch in the new ranger? The tow capacity and power seem like plenty to handle a 5th wheel.
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Old 03-25-2019, 10:14 AM   #2
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The new Ranger should do fine, I've been looking at them. My current TV is a 1996 Ranger with the 3.0 and it does fine with half the HP and torque of the new Ranger.
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Old 03-25-2019, 12:26 PM   #3
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I saw one of those new Rangers the other day and from the back it almost looked like a full size pickup except that it was narrower. Very impressive looking.
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Old 03-25-2019, 05:37 PM   #4
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Regardless of the hp and torque numbers, it is still a 4 banger. All of the Detroit Big 3 do not have a good track record with 4 cylinders. Toyota and other foreign makers seem to last much better. I'm more than willing to pay a little more for fuel in a larger V6 or V8 with more grunt. Just my $.02. and it's not even worth the copper it's stamped from... lol
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Old 03-25-2019, 08:10 PM   #5
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I think the Club Cab only has a 5 ft. bed. That may be a problem with a 5th wheel? I read they will have a towing rating of over 7k. Dependability is another thing to consider with getting a new line of vehicle.
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I think the Club Cab only has a 5 ft. bed. That may be a problem with a 5th wheel? I read they will have a towing rating of over 7k. Dependability is another thing to consider with getting a new line of vehicle.
There is a product called Sidewinder that replaces the trailer king pin to allow towing with a short bed. However, it's $1,000 and pretty restricted when it comes to the hitches it can be used with.
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Regardless of the hp and torque numbers, it is still a 4 banger. All of the Detroit Big 3 do not have a good track record with 4 cylinders. Toyota and other foreign makers seem to last much better. I'm more than willing to pay a little more for fuel in a larger V6 or V8 with more grunt. Just my $.02. and it's not even worth the copper it's stamped from... lol
PSHAW!! Copper plated zinc even.
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I think the Club Cab only has a 5 ft. bed. That may be a problem with a 5th wheel? I read they will have a towing rating of over 7k. Dependability is another thing to consider with getting a new line of vehicle.
Its "SuperCab" and "SuperCrew" they sound too much alike so I call them ..."Coupe" and Sedan".
Mine's a Coupe!
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Old 03-26-2019, 08:38 AM   #9
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What's up with the bed height on the new domestic trucks? I parked my 2012 Tacoma (4WD, double cab, w/TRD Offroad pkg) next to a new Ranger yesterday (very nice looking truck by the way). The distance from the ground to the top of the tailgate on the Ford was at least 6" higher than that of my Toyota. A few months back, I test drove a Chevy Colorado and noticed roughly the same thing.

I grew up with farm trucks. The bed was always half full of lubricants, chains, tools etc. and, worst case, you had to walk from one side to the other to retrieve something. I'm 6'4" and would be hard pressed to reach anything in the middle of the bed of a new Ranger or Colorado. And at 70, I'm not sure I could lift a full five gallon fuel can in or out over the side. I guess this is why we're seeing multiple iterations of step assists to help climb up into the bed from the various mfrs.

Rant off but I'll have to add a lift kit to the Scamp before I could consider a new Ford or Chevy.
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What's up with the bed height on the new domestic trucks? I parked my 2012 Tacoma (4WD, double cab, w/TRD Offroad pkg) next to a new Ranger yesterday (very nice looking truck by the way). The distance from the ground to the top of the tailgate on the Ford was at least 6" higher than that of my Toyota. A few months back, I test drove a Chevy Colorado and noticed roughly the same thing.
Its a marketing thing, and all the domestic manufacturers jumped in line to raise their beds. I went from a 2002 F150 to a 2010 F150 and the sides of the bed were much higher. I ended up getting side steps. I would not doubt that the 2019 models are higher still. Idiotic IMHO.

It may "look" cool, but functionally, its a PITA.
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...Idiotic IMHO.

It may "look" cool, but functionally, its a PITA.
Completely agree. Next year they will discover this fact and the year after the "mid" size truck beds will be 5 inches lower.
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I doubt it myself. Truck beds have been trending this direction for quite a while, and sales have certainly not suffered. Style wins over utility when it comes to sales.

For utility over style, look to the Ridgeline, but not for a 5er (unless you are willing to tackle an unsanctioned, custom hitch, as one or two have done). Frontier has a decent bedrail height, but it’s a bit behind the others in technology and safety. Good value proposition.

Both would work best with the standard Scamp suspension, making for a lower overall towing profile and fewer steps to climb in.

The Ranger likely requires the optional 3” lift, but measure and/or contact Scamp to be sure. We’ll look forward to hearing your towing report if you decide to go with the Ranger.

I believe I read the “new” Ranger is already coming up on a design refresh, as it’s been out for a number of years in other markets. That affects resale, but it can also make for some good deals once the update hits showrooms.
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Its a marketing thing, and all the domestic manufacturers jumped in line to raise their beds. I went from a 2002 F150 to a 2010 F150 and the sides of the bed were much higher. I ended up getting side steps. I would not doubt that the 2019 models are higher still. Idiotic IMHO.

It may "look" cool, but functionally, its a PITA.
Yea. The problem with today's pickup trucks is they're designed to be style statements not tools intended to get a job done. The high sides and aggressive ground clearances make getting to a toolbox behind the cab nearly impossible and racking project supplies in and out of the bed more work. They're not work trucks, they're fashion accessories.
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You should have zero problem towing a Scamp with a short bed Ranger. Towed our 19 thousands of miles with a short bed 2nd gen Canyon gas short bed that was a 5 speed and much less torque. The 19 weighs in a about 3300#, is only 6' wide, and maybe 9' high.
The consideration is that Scamp doesn't mount the hitch rails down to the frame. They bolt them through to the bed and they are set a bit closer to the tailgate so there's adequate walk around room when it's down. The "pin" weight on the ball is less than 500# so it's not an issue that its not over the axle. The tongue weight further back is much higher than that so the squat will be minimal.
We ordered our Scamp with 3" lift, 2 step entry, 15" wheels to solve bed height issue.
I just got a new Canyon diesel to tow our Escape 5.0TA but that camper is much taller, wider, and heavier than the Scamp. Happy camping.
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